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Enable remote use #64

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roaldarbol opened this issue May 10, 2023 · 2 comments
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Enable remote use #64

roaldarbol opened this issue May 10, 2023 · 2 comments
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@roaldarbol
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Lately I've been thinking quite a it about how versatile the BeeHive could be even for remote field work, moving the applicability from just the lab out into the field.

Battery
On obstacle is that it should be possible to power it with a battery. And then the actual implementation depends on whether we would still like for it to be able to pull 12V. Here's some ideas, but I'm sure there are more ways than I've thought of.

If battery life is of the essence, LiPo batteries would be ideal and have also been used for many similar things, although they can only deliver 5V as far as I know (e.g. the PiJuice - their implementation is quite cool, basically a hat - we could consider something similar, as long as the standoffs are like the BeeHive, it could stack up). Pimoroni uses a 2-pole JST PH battery connector for their batteries.

Of course there's a few ways to do this with normal AA batteries as well. There are some decent options on the market now (e.g. rechargeable Energizers). Having a 10-battery holder can deliver 12V, but it would need a 2-pin screwgate (so adding one to the board could be a possible solution). There are AA holders that come with a barrel jack, but the ones I've seen (e.g. this one) don't take as many batteries and can't provide 12V.

On/off switch
Another thing that would then be needed is a power switch.

Barrel jack/screwgate switch
And another switch that might be good to have is a switch so you can choose where to pull the power from.

In summary, I'd suggest either:

  1. The easy way forward: Add a 2-pin screwgate, a switch to choose barrel/screwgate, and an ON/OFF switch (AA battery solution).
  2. The harder way: Add a 2-pin JST connector and ensure that 12V cannot be pulled from it - and again a switch.
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Thanks for the input @roaldarbol and well documented thoughts and ideas. Maybe a bit of a spoiler, but we have been working on a new design for the main hub:

In the top right corner you can see a 12V barreljack that can be turned on/off via a jumper wire. Hopefully, when this one is manufactured, it might almost be an answer to this issue.
@amchagas and I decided that it might be convenient to be able to turn on/off each individual 5V line in a similar way. Thus there are a lot of connectors on the new board.

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Sounds good. I'm not sure I completely understand the jumper-wire solution, but I trust it's well-though through.😊 I'm wondering how it would help with remote use - I think being able to power it from a non-barrel jack would be essential. Is the idea that if something is plugged the 2-pin in the top-right corner, then that's sufficient? If that's the case, I'd just replace that 2-pin connector with a 2-pin screwgate; pretty much all the batteries/battery packs come with stripped wire ends that would go directly into the screwgate. And then an ON/OFF switch would still be needed somewhere (as it'll be a massive fuzz to unplug stuff every time you want to turn it off). Please correct me if I've misunderstood though!😅

By the way, I really like that the connectors have all been moved to the sides of the board, making them more accessible and easier to unplug - good job!🥳

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