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[00:00.000 --> 00:09.000]  media. Government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN
[00:09.000 --> 00:38.800]  Network. And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones. It is the 29th day of May 2008.
[00:38.800 --> 00:43.040]  We are accelerating quickly towards the InfoWars money bomb coming up this Saturday. I'll be
[00:43.040 --> 00:50.680]  live for a special edition just on the internet streams at infowars.com. And for prisonplanet.tv
[00:50.680 --> 00:54.520]  viewers, the whole bunch of special guests and your phone calls for the four hours from
[00:54.520 --> 01:00.360]  8 to midnight central standard time. That's 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. Eastern. And then, of course,
[01:00.360 --> 01:06.760]  I'll be back Sunday live 4 to 6 p.m. But it is Thursday. This week is far from over.
[01:06.760 --> 01:11.880]  Next Wednesday, I'm going to be in Virginia, getting ready for that trip. Burmese will
[01:11.880 --> 01:15.600]  be sitting in Tuesday, though I'll still be in town. Burmese will be sitting in Jason
[01:15.600 --> 01:19.200]  Burmese, who's down here making a film with us the next few months. He'll be sitting in
[01:19.200 --> 01:23.680]  Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. And I'll be doing live callings as well as other
[01:23.680 --> 01:28.560]  shows on Saturday. And then, I come back next, not this Sunday, but the upcoming Sunday,
[01:28.560 --> 01:33.400]  back to Austin, Texas. We'll be covering Bilderberg, 2008 in Chantilly, Virginia,
[01:33.400 --> 01:40.240]  outside the District of Criminals. Hope to see everybody out there. A lot of big guests
[01:40.240 --> 01:45.240]  lined up for you today. Gerald Goldstein, a lawyer here in Texas, he was very upset
[01:45.240 --> 01:49.040]  about the fact that police claim they're going to pull you over and forcibly take your blood
[01:49.040 --> 01:54.560]  on the side of the road. Just an amazing invasion of privacy, invasion of the Fourth
[01:54.560 --> 01:59.840]  Amendment, crossing boundaries, what it's all about. Then William Pepper, one of the
[01:59.840 --> 02:04.880]  lawyers for Bobby Kennedy, he'll be coming on, exposing the fact that they murdered
[02:04.880 --> 02:11.040]  not just Bobby, but of course RFK. So William Pepper joining us, coming up in one hour.
[02:11.040 --> 02:14.400]  Eric Nordstrom, who came up with the original Ron Paul Money Bomb, is doing the M4's Money
[02:14.400 --> 02:20.000]  Bomb. He's popping in for about 15 minutes in the third hour. And then Richard Gage in
[02:20.000 --> 02:27.200]  the fourth hour today, Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth. So that is
[02:27.200 --> 02:34.480]  coming up as well, jam-packed broadcast for you on this Thursday edition. Okay, I have
[02:34.480 --> 02:41.080]  no exaggeration about 100 plus articles probably here in front of me that I want to go over.
[02:41.080 --> 02:45.480]  And I'm going to attempt the next 30 minutes to give you a shotgun coverage of these. And
[02:45.480 --> 02:50.440]  then in the third hour, we've got the Money Bomb gone for only about 15 minutes. I'll
[02:50.440 --> 02:59.360]  spend 45 minutes focusing in on the Marshall Law Marine Corps story, the economic angle
[02:59.360 --> 03:06.840]  of what's happening also, more detail on that, and focusing in on the Scott McClellan White
[03:06.840 --> 03:14.240]  House Press Secretary situation. Just a comment on that. Now, the media is freaking out going,
[03:14.240 --> 03:21.400]  is it true? Oh my gosh, is he a traitor? Oh, you know, is it a conspiracy theory? We have
[03:21.400 --> 03:26.800]  White House memos, White House documents, we have CIA assessments, we have Bush speech
[03:26.800 --> 03:32.680]  writers. It's kind of like I had Vincent Bugliozzi on a few days ago, and he said, yes, our government
[03:32.680 --> 03:38.600]  in the White House memo wanted to stage an event. And I said, yeah, shooting down, getting
[03:38.600 --> 03:43.480]  a U.N. plane, or U.S. plane plane, or U.N. plane shot down and blaming it on Saddam. And
[03:43.480 --> 03:47.720]  he said, yes, you read that in my book. And I didn't go, no, I didn't read that in your
[03:47.720 --> 03:55.600]  hot new book that's in my film Terror Storm out two years ago. But, you know, the point
[03:55.600 --> 04:01.680]  here is, I guess to the media it is a secret, because the media is so lazy and just republishes
[04:01.680 --> 04:06.320]  government press releases. In some cases, it's not even government control and manipulation.
[04:06.320 --> 04:10.640]  Though there's news about that today with CNN and Fox and others engaged in propaganda
[04:10.640 --> 04:16.080]  and lying and covering all this up. But the White House premeditatedly falsified uranium
[04:16.080 --> 04:24.000]  documents, aluminum tube documents, nuke documents. I mean, this is a White House that has the
[04:24.000 --> 04:29.880]  son of the ADL head dressed up on TV saying he's going to kill us with WMDs every two
[04:29.880 --> 04:35.960]  weeks. I mean, this is a government that runs real Al-Qaeda attacks on Iran and then tries
[04:35.960 --> 04:41.040]  to ban Dunkin' Donuts ads because a woman's wearing a scarf. You know, let's do something
[04:41.040 --> 04:46.080]  absurd. Let's get a Dunkin' Donuts ad banned because a woman's got a scarf on. But then
[04:46.080 --> 04:54.080]  let's have the government run Al-Qaeda. It's just, it's disgusting.
[04:54.080 --> 05:12.480]  It is a big idea. A new world order. For thousands of years, their dark order grew. Now as they
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[08:02.160 --> 08:25.680]  OK, here is some of the news in front of me. Marine's bringing combat training to Indian
[08:25.680 --> 08:35.600] apolis, Indiana. Check president. Klaus ready to debate Gore on climate change. UN to have
[08:35.600 --> 08:41.160]  the last say on Arctic seabed claims. Now the global government. North American parliament
[08:41.160 --> 08:46.440]  underway. That's right. North American parliament operating right now. Jerome Corsi reporting
[08:46.440 --> 08:55.480]  on that got him coming on to Marab. In Miami, Spanish is becoming the primary language. Texas
[08:55.480 --> 09:02.440]  town immigrant renting rule is struck down. That's right. They can ask if you're a criminal.
[09:02.440 --> 09:07.320]  They can run a background check on you. But if you're a felony, felony illegal alien,
[09:07.320 --> 09:14.440]  they are not allowed to stop you. Again, above the law, federal court criminally ruling that
[09:14.440 --> 09:20.800]  because illegal aliens are first class citizens for now as they're inducted into being slave
[09:20.800 --> 09:25.520]  Americans. You see slaves get in, they don't get out. The fences they're building are to
[09:25.520 --> 09:30.720]  keep Americans in, by the way. They're just going to legalize with a guest worker program.
[09:30.720 --> 09:35.080]  All the illegal that's admitted in all the federal documents on land security. Texas
[09:35.080 --> 09:42.000]  town immigrant renting rule is struck down. CNN's executive reporting network execs killed
[09:42.000 --> 09:50.080]  critical White House stories. Oh, really? They did tell me something we didn't know.
[09:50.080 --> 09:53.520]  We have a bunch of different articles about Scott McClellan with ex-colleagues asked,
[09:53.520 --> 10:01.640]  what happened? Former Bush aide stuns many with critical new book. Oh my gosh. Pelosi
[10:01.640 --> 10:09.160]  chimes in politically saying, I totally agree. See, it's a jumping ship to the Democrats.
[10:09.160 --> 10:14.360]  His mother who's had like 18 husbands in his, let's be serious, six different husbands.
[10:14.360 --> 10:20.360]  It's like a black widow here in Austin. Is her name Strayhorn right now or something?
[10:20.360 --> 10:24.560]  I mean, literally it changes every six months. One of the richest, most powerful women in
[10:24.560 --> 10:28.440]  Texas lives right here in Austin down the street from Morad. Very dangerous to even
[10:28.440 --> 10:34.320]  talk about her. The Rupert Murdoch's coming out and saying that the Democrats are going
[10:34.320 --> 10:40.760]  to sweep everything. They're totally taking over and that's what's going to happen, probably.
[10:40.760 --> 10:45.080]  Now Murdoch did predict along with Newt Gingrich that it would be Hillary getting the nomination.
[10:45.080 --> 10:48.160]  So we'll see if he's going to be wrong, but he is one of the top king makers in media
[10:48.160 --> 10:56.040]  and culture. And it's just going to be a reign of micromanagement terror, more terror attacks,
[10:56.040 --> 10:59.640]  more control. Suddenly Democrats are going to love it. Suddenly those that didn't like
[10:59.640 --> 11:04.360]  Bush's martial law system are going to love it because it wasn't Bush's martial law system.
[11:04.360 --> 11:09.160]  They have been quietly integrating Marines, Army into local police departments, engaging
[11:09.160 --> 11:14.800]  in Posse Comintatus felonies by the hundreds of thousands since the 70s. We're going to
[11:14.800 --> 11:19.720]  cover that later today. This is a long-term strategic plan that we're now coming to the
[11:19.720 --> 11:30.960]  end of. You know, they tend to take your shirt off and cut your hair short and they bind
[11:30.960 --> 11:35.920]  your hands, bind your feet when they carry you up to the guillotine. And this was the
[11:35.920 --> 11:39.480]  shave in the head or cutting the hair so it didn't get in the way. You get a clean cut.
[11:39.480 --> 11:43.120]  This is the sharpening the blade. You know, first they had to build the guillotine to
[11:43.120 --> 11:47.720]  cut America's head off. They had to train the executioners, the police. They had to
[11:47.720 --> 11:52.040]  get the crowd all ready. They had to prepare the public. And so now the country is having
[11:52.040 --> 12:02.200]  its head stuck in the block and they are pulling the guillotine blade up to the top and getting
[12:02.200 --> 12:06.960]  ready to pull the lever. So we're at that moment of truth. Kind of like you wait for
[12:06.960 --> 12:12.080]  Christmas when you're a little kid. I mean, those summer days, they just go on and on.
[12:12.080 --> 12:15.480]  They seem like they're never going to end. But before you know it, it's Christmas. And
[12:15.480 --> 12:19.080]  before you know it, you're 20 years old. You're 30 years old. You're 40 years old. Your kids
[12:19.080 --> 12:24.920]  are in college. You're 65. You're a grandparent. Before you know it, you're on your death bed.
[12:24.920 --> 12:30.720]  Well, we're here. It's kind of the time now. The head's going in and it's sick and sad
[12:30.720 --> 12:34.720]  and painful for me, but in a lot of ways, a lot of scum and support of this evil are
[12:34.720 --> 12:39.680]  now going to get what you wanted all along. A lot of you that giggled and laughed and
[12:39.680 --> 12:55.560]  served the system. McClellan says W. H. wanted him to stay silent. White House. White House
[12:55.560 --> 13:04.680]  reacts negatively to ex AIDS book. Investigators raid German telecom giant and spy probe spying
[13:04.680 --> 13:13.680]  for globalist. Like I said, River Murdoch predicts a landslide for the Democrats. That's
[13:13.680 --> 13:22.400]  how the Reuters dollar rises to two week high as Fisher signals rate cuts and the rates
[13:22.400 --> 13:27.600]  may rise that rate cuts may be over to interest rates. And again, if you call the dollar going
[13:27.600 --> 13:34.440]  up half a penny in the last two weeks, the dollar rising fine and dandy. But we see
[13:34.440 --> 13:39.400]  this every month. The cycle, it goes down two steps, goes back up a step goes back down
[13:39.400 --> 13:45.200]  two steps and that's the graph. Meanwhile, it just gives people enough hope to not pull
[13:45.200 --> 13:49.360]  out of dollars while the globalists are able to position their wealth. When they finally
[13:49.360 --> 13:55.280]  get done doing that, they'll drop the hammer on you, drop the guillotine on you. New Jersey
[13:55.280 --> 14:01.320]  Texas court scraps awards from viox cases. That's right. They admit it caused all those
[14:01.320 --> 14:07.040]  tens of thousands of heart attacks and deaths. But you know, so what? Doesn't matter. Oil
[14:07.040 --> 14:15.560]  prices bounce around after dropping us apply all prices surged upwards. Get into that later.
[14:15.560 --> 14:24.960]  Loans fall again amid rising inflation fears. Banks set aside record $37 billion in losses.
[14:24.960 --> 14:32.080]  FDIC says troubled real estate loans for US banks to boost loan loss provisions for record
[14:32.080 --> 14:38.320]  $37.1 billion in the first quarter of 08 compared to $9.2 billion in the year ago period. The
[14:38.320 --> 14:44.960]  federal deposit insurance said Thursday and the FDIC is to get ready for massive bank
[14:44.960 --> 14:51.920]  failures. I've got that report here. There's lots of big mainstream media reports about
[14:51.920 --> 14:56.120]  $15 billion missing, but the only reason you're hearing about that is that stolen computers,
[14:56.120 --> 15:08.480]  stolen rifles, stolen hand grenades, rocket launchers, trucks, weapons systems, telecommunications,
[15:08.480 --> 15:17.080]  equipment, radar. That's paltry. See, they'll report on low-level thieving, but they won't
[15:17.080 --> 15:20.720]  talk about, well, AP did, but it never got any national attention. A few other papers
[15:20.720 --> 15:26.840]  did the Oregonian did when it was 1.9 trillion six years ago. It's now well over 4 trillion.
[15:26.840 --> 15:31.280]  Last time I saw a congressional report, that was about a year ago. And people will then
[15:31.280 --> 15:36.360]  again say their budget's only $800 billion a year for defense was $400 billion when they
[15:36.360 --> 15:43.640]  started Bush got in. Again, the pension funds, the investments, all the money that was piled
[15:43.640 --> 15:52.040]  up by the Pentagon ferreted into accounts. It's gone. And if you try to arrest anybody
[15:52.040 --> 15:55.640]  that did it, they'll just set a nuke off and say a guy in a cave did it or they'll
[15:55.640 --> 16:02.080]  try it out on ADL heads, grandson with a fake beard on that you can see is fake on video
[16:02.080 --> 16:06.000]  and he'll tell you how he's going to kill you if you don't submit to them stealing
[16:06.000 --> 16:13.560]  everything. If you don't submit to just total looting, stealing, thieving at every level
[16:13.560 --> 16:18.360]  you can imagine just grabbing up infrastructure, militarizing police, building huge prisons
[16:18.360 --> 16:24.000]  everywhere. Oh man, I can't believe this is happening. So everybody's talking about 15
[16:24.000 --> 16:32.840]  billion. That's what their low-level people still folks. It was over $60 billion a year
[16:32.840 --> 16:39.080]  ago. I ought to pull up the latest numbers with the media admits where C-130s fly in
[16:39.080 --> 16:45.640]  every week with billions of dollars of hundreds, 50s and 20s and they give privates 30 grand
[16:45.640 --> 16:49.840]  a year on average and then tell them, oh, you're part of the corruption now. We can
[16:49.840 --> 16:54.440]  selectively arrest you for that. Again, a colonel gets as much as a million a year and
[16:54.440 --> 16:59.120]  it's unknown what generals get. I mean, of course, those guys only want to be generals
[16:59.120 --> 17:02.880]  there for three, four months on average and then leave was four months because they're
[17:02.880 --> 17:07.920]  given hundreds of millions. I mean, this is the corrupting. This is how the mob does
[17:07.920 --> 17:14.480]  it. It's just mob tactics and then it comes out. Yeah, we're giving everybody money. Aren't
[17:14.480 --> 17:19.360]  you for supporting the troops? And then just because the troops get 30 grand a piece a
[17:19.360 --> 17:26.240]  year, a private sergeant gets like a 50, 60, 70, 100 grand depends on what type of sergeant.
[17:26.240 --> 17:32.360]  Can you imagine? And so that's why there's been 3 trillion, 3 trillion pumped in the
[17:32.360 --> 17:40.280]  last five years, four months, 3 trillion pumped into that black hole. And that's not counting
[17:40.280 --> 17:44.920]  the 4 trillion they stole out of pension funds and Pentagon investments under the comprehensive
[17:44.920 --> 17:56.960]  annual financial report system. So that's when you see 4 trillion and then 3 trillion,
[17:56.960 --> 18:04.520]  7 trillion. You see, the cops and the militarization of the prisons, that's just a rearguard.
[18:04.520 --> 18:09.000]  All the money's leaving the country. They're leaving for four or five years. They're all
[18:09.000 --> 18:13.960]  leaving. I mean, they're not even having penthouses in New York anymore. They're just going and
[18:13.960 --> 18:20.120]  they're rearguard action when we get left on the bag of total debt totally on our name.
[18:20.120 --> 18:23.640]  We're just going to be left with a bunch of idiots with shaved heads and black uniforms.
[18:23.640 --> 18:34.480]  Oh man, this is sick. This is sick. I mean, there's never been bank robberies like this.
[18:34.480 --> 18:38.000]  There's never been heists. These are the greatest criminals the world's ever seen. That's all
[18:38.000 --> 18:42.840]  globalist are. They built an international law system where it's legal for them to steal.
[18:42.840 --> 18:48.680]  Other than international, outside of any country, and now they're not done. Now they're going
[18:48.680 --> 18:55.840]  to move on to taxing our breathing, to taxing everything we do, every facet of our lives,
[18:55.840 --> 19:00.480]  inspectors in our homes, jail time for the most petty of things. Like I said, a battery,
[19:00.480 --> 19:04.720]  a double A battery in your backyard, four years in prison. I mean, they're admitting
[19:04.720 --> 19:07.920]  all this, a credit card. You've got to swipe for your carbon credits. And then when you
[19:07.920 --> 19:12.160]  quote consume too much, they tax you on your card. Like I told you years ago, that was
[19:12.160 --> 19:15.400]  in the federal plans, international union plans, they're going to call it a national
[19:15.400 --> 19:20.560]  sales tax. It's a global tax. I mean, folks, and I know you're laughing now, just as it
[19:20.560 --> 19:25.280]  all happens, and as it all unfolds exactly as we told you it would, just remember I
[19:25.280 --> 19:38.880]  warned you. I mean, I cannot express how bad it is. They've sucked a scry so we don't
[19:38.880 --> 19:43.080]  ever get the country back under our control and go arrest them. They are going to put
[19:43.080 --> 19:48.760]  us into martial law. But that's just to protect themselves. See, when it's like a lion, when
[19:48.760 --> 19:52.760]  it grabs a gazelle, it bites the neck first. They got to break our neck so we don't flail
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[24:43.760 --> 25:02.480]  Yeah, I'm better. I'm angry. I'm upset. I have all the official government documents.
[25:02.480 --> 25:09.480]  I have Marines that were illegally raiding American gun owners homes in the 80s in Virginia.
[25:09.480 --> 25:13.560]  Part of a huge secret martial law takeover plan. They've been doing this for decades.
[25:13.560 --> 25:17.320]  I know all these urban warfare drills are to acclimate and prepare the public to have
[25:17.320 --> 25:22.840]  their cities taken over by the U.S. military. I go into the YouTube and video sites where
[25:22.840 --> 25:27.760]  they have clips of my films and I see Marines and cops talking about how I'm a traitor and
[25:27.760 --> 25:32.280]  need to be arrested and so what if they're getting ready to take over America. I mean,
[25:32.280 --> 25:37.840]  you know what? I think most of them are going to go for it and do it. And they think power
[25:37.840 --> 25:41.600]  and authority is where everything flows from and if the government tells them to do something,
[25:41.600 --> 25:46.120]  that's fine. Now you have the other crowd that will conversely deny all of this is happening
[25:46.120 --> 25:52.440]  and say the Marines are just going in to that city in Minneapolis, Indiana. They're just
[25:52.440 --> 25:56.960]  going in there to find out what's going on and to train them how to fight al-Qaeda in
[25:56.960 --> 26:02.200]  Iraq. Meanwhile, our government publicly runs al-Qaeda in Iraq and is commanding them
[26:02.200 --> 26:10.840]  to and running operations for four plus years attacking the Iranians. So it's just unbelievable.
[26:10.840 --> 26:17.320]  It's unbelievable that this type of stuff is going on. Marines bringing combat training
[26:17.320 --> 26:23.880]  to Indianapolis, Indianapolis Star, listen to this, U.S. Marine helicopters will land
[26:23.880 --> 26:29.400]  at the old Eagle Gate Consumer Mall, Brookside Park and other Indianapolis locations when
[26:29.400 --> 26:33.960]  the city becomes a mock battlefield next week. About 2,300 Marines, they bring in the new
[26:33.960 --> 26:39.240]  ones for this. From the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina,
[26:39.240 --> 26:43.240]  we'll conduct urban warfare training from Wednesday through June 19th in and around
[26:43.240 --> 26:47.520]  Indianapolis. Now they tell the low level grunts that this is for overseas end quote
[26:47.520 --> 26:51.600]  in case there's an emergency in America. But then they field them out into other operations
[26:51.600 --> 26:56.040]  after that. Most of the troops will be deployed in the Indiana State Fairgrounds and the Raytheon
[26:56.040 --> 27:01.640]  facility at Holt Road. I said Debbie Fletcher for the Indianapolis Marion County Emergency
[27:01.640 --> 27:05.360]  Management Agency. See, that's who they're working with. Oh, getting to know the local
[27:05.360 --> 27:09.240]  emergency managers. We don't want anyone thinking that there's an invasion happening
[27:09.240 --> 27:13.960]  or that we've declared martial law or something like that, Fletcher said. We've got to get
[27:13.960 --> 27:24.680]  her on. The Marines have been cleared by state, federal and local authorities. Fletcher said
[27:24.680 --> 27:29.080]  the unit's commander promised to keep, try to keep the noise at a minimum and gave the
[27:29.080 --> 27:32.680]  neighbors plenty of warning. It goes on to say they'll be quote running roadside checkpoints.
[27:32.680 --> 27:37.920]  Now in Swansboro, North Carolina, in Des Moines, Iowa, we have newscasts showing this. We
[27:37.920 --> 27:42.600]  have video. We got ourselves as well. The Marines will actually pull over real cars,
[27:42.600 --> 27:46.920]  but a cop will pull you over and the Marines come over to the search. I mean, total end
[27:46.920 --> 27:52.440]  of Posse commentatus, totally criminal, even the way they've quote amended it is, but
[27:52.440 --> 27:58.280]  they don't care. Don't forget it was the Marines that the Bush seniors father, Prescott
[27:58.280 --> 28:04.200]  Bush, tried to hire and have Spendley Butler, two-time congressional medal of honor winner.
[28:04.200 --> 28:09.240]  He tests five for Congress to overthrow the government, use Marines as the main army
[28:09.240 --> 28:13.880]  to do it. So the Marines have always been who they have their eye on to do this and
[28:13.880 --> 28:18.200]  they've given them questionnaires in the 80s and 90s and it's just, it's, it's unbelievable
[28:18.200 --> 28:23.120]  season. Spendley Butler, two-time congressional medal of honor winner in line to be commandant.
[28:23.120 --> 28:26.040]  And he said, I will not do this as the commandant of the Marine Corps. And they said, okay,
[28:26.040 --> 28:29.360]  you're not commandant. And it's supposed to be like a captain's list in the old British
[28:29.360 --> 28:34.240]  Navy. The way the Marines are set up is they go back to that is that it's, it's, it's
[28:34.240 --> 28:38.920]  a succession there, unlike the army and other things. There's somewhat of a succession there
[28:38.920 --> 28:43.560]  as well in the admiral's list, but with the Marine Corps, it's really a succession. And
[28:43.560 --> 28:47.040]  he was supposed to be the greatest commandant ever. I mean, none of them had to, nobody's
[28:47.040 --> 28:51.480]  got two medal of honors, but Spendley Butler, the guy that makes Audie Murphy look like
[28:51.480 --> 28:57.160]  a, I don't want to say a wimp, but pale in significance. We'll just say that. Unbelievable.
[28:57.160 --> 29:00.720]  He said, no, I will not take over and have a fascist dictatorship and I won't be the
[29:00.720 --> 29:07.360]  military general that runs it. Oh God, help us. But we don't have generals like that now.
[29:07.360 --> 29:10.800]  I mean, if you're a general in the military that's been in Iraq, you've taken hundreds
[29:10.800 --> 29:14.520]  of millions or you've been killed. That's why so many have been murdered and killed
[29:14.520 --> 29:18.560]  and quote, committed suicide. It goes on to say our aim in Indianapolis is to expose
[29:18.560 --> 29:23.800]  our Marines to realistic scenarios and stressed posed by operating an actual urban community,
[29:23.800 --> 29:28.000]  thereby increasing the proficiency and build up areas. And Colonel Mark Dennis, commander
[29:28.000 --> 29:32.240]  of the 26 MEU, said in a statement, while some of the activity will take place in Camp
[29:32.240 --> 29:36.520]  Atterbury, residents of many areas will see helicopter flying around military vehicles
[29:36.520 --> 29:41.480]  on the roads and Marines patrolling on foot as well as checkpoints. And it comes back.
[29:41.480 --> 29:46.760]  We'll come back with a guest and get it into more. We're on the march. The empire's on
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[33:23.240 --> 33:28.160]  We all know that Memorial Day weekend is a big weekend for barbecues for a few beers
[33:28.160 --> 33:34.680]  maybe so the idea behind this no refusal weekend is to keep these roads safe but the debate
[33:34.680 --> 33:38.280]  becomes whether taking blood is fair.
[33:38.280 --> 33:44.960]  This Memorial weekend is a no refusal weekend. Yes, this weekend if you get stopped by comps
[33:44.960 --> 33:50.480]  because they think you were drinking and driving, you may ask to take a breathalyzer. You refuse
[33:50.480 --> 33:54.440]  and they will take your blood. That's just not fair.
[33:54.440 --> 33:58.400]  That's the propaganda. By the way, I'm here on South Lamar in Austin. There's guys out
[33:58.400 --> 34:05.440]  with sandwich boards for sandwich shops, for tax preparing, for a furniture store. Right
[34:05.440 --> 34:10.320]  now I drove to work this morning and saw them but if I go out there with a Ron Paul sign
[34:10.320 --> 34:13.960]  there's a good chance because it's happened. Cops will pull over and say you can't be here.
[34:13.960 --> 34:17.560]  You can't stand with a sign. They just lost another lawsuit over that. They don't care.
[34:17.560 --> 34:21.200]  It's just our money because they've been told for everyone's safety you don't have
[34:21.200 --> 34:26.960]  a First Amendment. See it's always for your safety and oh, we got to stop the drunk drivers.
[34:26.960 --> 34:31.480]  That's why they're building liquor stores the size of aircraft carriers. I mean now
[34:31.480 --> 34:36.240]  literally there's one in Kyle outside Austin the size of a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.
[34:36.240 --> 34:40.400]  It's the size of a Walmart. I mean the thing is just, I say aircraft carrier because it's
[34:40.400 --> 34:48.800]  long. It's gigantic. It's not just, it's so huge. I've never seen anything like it.
[34:48.800 --> 34:51.440]  And of course when the cops aren't stumbling around drunk, everybody knows they're the
[34:51.440 --> 34:55.800]  biggest luscious out there. And do I want somebody weaving drunk in front of me? No.
[34:55.800 --> 35:00.080]  I see drunks all the time weaving around down the road and that's what we need is cops out
[35:00.080 --> 35:05.600]  picking them out. But no, it's random checkpoints and random enforcement areas in these roving
[35:05.600 --> 35:09.240]  teams and shotgun effect as they call it, where they just randomly pull you over now
[35:09.240 --> 35:14.640]  and come over and inspect you and then let you go. And that's not America. Now in some
[35:14.640 --> 35:20.800]  areas of Illinois, Ohio, California, Tucson, Arizona, they do it in Denver, outside Denver
[35:20.800 --> 35:24.880]  in Colorado. I mean I've seen hundreds of articles just all over the country, Florida.
[35:24.880 --> 35:31.000]  They take your blood on the side of the road, on the side of the road. In some areas of
[35:31.000 --> 35:35.880]  Texas they're doing that. In other areas, they call it into a judge and it's really
[35:35.880 --> 35:40.240]  a fake warrant and they call it back and claim there's a warrant. And the cop sticks a needle.
[35:40.240 --> 35:44.280]  This is about invasion of your privacy, about getting across barriers. It's about letting
[35:44.280 --> 35:49.120]  you know who the boss is. And joining us as a Texas lawyer who spoke out on the piece,
[35:49.120 --> 35:54.840]  Gerald Goldstein, and we'll get his take on everything that's happening here. Mr. Goldstein
[35:54.840 --> 35:56.400]  thanks for coming on with us.
[35:56.400 --> 35:57.400]  My pleasure, Alex.
[35:57.400 --> 36:00.960]  What do you think about those other statements I made about how I don't have a First Amendment
[36:00.960 --> 36:04.640]  anymore in Austin? The cops tell me I can't stand right next to a guy with a sandwich
[36:04.640 --> 36:10.080]  board on the sidewalk for a furniture place that I don't have a free speech either. Not
[36:10.080 --> 36:12.960]  just they're going to take my blood, but now there's no freedom either.
[36:12.960 --> 36:17.720]  Well, if you keep speaking up for free speech and people keep suing them, sooner or later
[36:17.720 --> 36:21.400]  the public will get wind of that and take account of that.
[36:21.400 --> 36:27.560]  I think Austin's lost more than 50 lawsuits for this. And they just don't care. It's
[36:27.560 --> 36:29.200]  our money. They just go fine.
[36:29.200 --> 36:36.840]  Well, at some point when it's our money, we have a voice in that. And if a citizenry
[36:36.840 --> 36:40.200]  wants to take action, there's always the ballot box.
[36:40.200 --> 36:45.640]  Oh, with those special di-bold machines with all the convicted felons caught admitting
[36:45.640 --> 36:47.040]  they're stealing all the elections?
[36:47.040 --> 36:48.040]  Exactly.
[36:48.040 --> 36:52.720]  So things are getting dark right now in the country. Sir, let's get in the blood. I'm
[36:52.720 --> 36:56.720]  sorry I digress. Tell us a little bit about Gerald Goldstein, your practice and why you
[36:56.720 --> 36:59.880]  got involved in this news piece. And they gave you about 10 seconds in it, what you
[36:59.880 --> 37:01.680]  really wanted to say.
[37:01.680 --> 37:06.440]  Well, I'm a past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and
[37:06.440 --> 37:11.880]  also the Texas Association. I like you, or am I a concerned citizen that is worried
[37:11.880 --> 37:16.320]  that we seem to be giving up and throwing away our constitutional rights and liberties
[37:16.320 --> 37:20.080]  in order to protect and preserve those precious rights.
[37:20.080 --> 37:26.320]  Absolutely. Tell us about the particular in San Antonio and what's going on there and
[37:26.320 --> 37:29.240]  what the law and the rulings and precedent really say.
[37:29.240 --> 37:37.040]  Well, in essence, you were correct when you described what's going on. Taking blood is
[37:37.040 --> 37:44.920]  considered, at least by Supreme Court cases, a very intrusive concept. It's different than
[37:44.920 --> 37:52.600]  an intoxuizer, what we used to call a breathalyzer, in that sticking a needle in someone is intrusive.
[37:52.600 --> 37:57.480]  And for that reason, they technically require a search warrant under Texas statute.
[37:57.480 --> 37:59.480]  It's a forced medical procedure.
[37:59.480 --> 38:03.960]  Exactly. And generally speaking, they have to have probable cause. They have to have
[38:03.960 --> 38:09.600]  a neutral detached magistrate make a decision. What is troubling about this practice is,
[38:09.600 --> 38:16.600]  while in San Antonio, they did use trained medical professionals, that is nurses, and
[38:16.600 --> 38:21.240]  they did seek a traditional intervention. What in essence they had was a production
[38:21.240 --> 38:27.680]  line. They had a magistrate who was on call, they had nurses standing by, and the police
[38:27.680 --> 38:35.560]  officers would hand them what I suspect and believe were canned affidavits, setting forth
[38:35.560 --> 38:43.880]  the probable cause in quotes. The judges systematically granted those requests.
[38:43.880 --> 38:47.800]  Yeah, they weren't even reviewing it. So, this is judicial tyranny. You're not supposed
[38:47.800 --> 38:50.120]  to have rubber stamp warrants, are you?
[38:50.120 --> 38:55.000]  Exactly. And one is concerned anytime you have a production line like that, where rather
[38:55.000 --> 39:00.840]  than on an individual basis, officers seeking a judicial determination and then taking you
[39:00.840 --> 39:07.080]  to a hospital, this was a planned procedure where, even the way it's described by the
[39:07.080 --> 39:14.280]  district attorney, it's, you know, this was a situation where they weren't seeking consent
[39:14.280 --> 39:18.280]  or judicial intervention. It was, you're going to get tagged and you're going to have to
[39:18.280 --> 39:19.280]  give blood.
[39:19.280 --> 39:24.240]  Now, let me stop you, sir. Let me ask you if you're aware, but sounds like you are.
[39:24.240 --> 39:29.560]  In Arizona, in Colorado, in Illinois, they are taking blood, though just the police are
[39:29.560 --> 39:30.880]  just doing it.
[39:30.880 --> 39:35.440]  Right. That's not true in Colorado yet, but in the other states, all of us are concerned
[39:35.440 --> 39:39.520]  about that. And by the way, the police officers, you know, you could have a police officer
[39:39.520 --> 39:40.680]  that's trained medically.
[39:40.680 --> 39:45.080]  Okay, the media may have gotten that wrong, but the Denver Papers did report that in the
[39:45.080 --> 39:47.520]  county next to what they were taking blood without warrants.
[39:47.520 --> 39:53.240]  Right. What I think is those were, they were actually trained, even though they were police
[39:53.240 --> 39:54.240]  officers.
[39:54.240 --> 39:57.120]  But they're still not a warrant to suck the blood, is what I'm saying.
[39:57.120 --> 40:02.400]  Exactly. And that's unbelievable. So not even a rubber stamp. They're foregoing that. Now,
[40:02.400 --> 40:06.680]  now you, you talked about how the rubber stamp is improper and unconstitutional. Now, can
[40:06.680 --> 40:11.440]  we talk about without even the rubber stamp, just foregoing the, the, the, the kangaroo
[40:11.440 --> 40:12.440]  court?
[40:12.440 --> 40:18.920]  Well, the Supreme Court, there's a case actually, uh, Schumer versus California that actually
[40:18.920 --> 40:23.360]  talks about, uh, the requirement for a warrant for an intrusive body invasion like that.
[40:23.360 --> 40:29.520]  Uh, and the reason for that is pretty obvious. Uh, there are medical procedures. Nobody wants
[40:29.520 --> 40:35.240]  to have a needle. What if the, a cop, an untrained police officer, uh, for example, uses the
[40:35.240 --> 40:40.720]  same needle? Uh, you know, you've got all sorts of health concerns well beyond the safety
[40:40.720 --> 40:45.640]  of our roads where someone with a dirty needle is injecting. If you've got hepatitis C, you've
[40:45.640 --> 40:49.920]  got HIV, there's all sorts of reasons why the last thing we need is to have untrained
[40:49.920 --> 40:54.200]  professional sticking needles in each other.
[40:54.200 --> 40:58.920]  Well remember how they tried in 2002 to train the police to forcibly inoculate the public
[40:58.920 --> 41:02.800]  during emergencies and the National Health Services Act. And then that failed because
[41:02.800 --> 41:05.800]  the cops wouldn't take the vaccines. So I think this is the, you know, there's something
[41:05.800 --> 41:10.320]  larger here because we know federal funds are the grants that are pushing this. Uh,
[41:10.320 --> 41:11.800]  your take on that, sir.
[41:11.800 --> 41:17.880]  Well, you know, ultimately the taxpayer pays for all law enforcement measures and you know,
[41:17.880 --> 41:22.640]  there's a, there's an ancillary secondary concern here is for the most part, when you
[41:22.640 --> 41:28.040]  get the, some people don't like to be stuck with needles by anybody. And there's a question
[41:28.040 --> 41:32.720]  about the compulsion. For example, a lot of people will opt for the intoxuizer, even though
[41:32.720 --> 41:36.520]  it's supposed to be consensual in lieu of having somebody stick a needle in them.
[41:36.520 --> 41:37.760]  Yeah, no, it's a, it's a, it's a,
[41:37.760 --> 41:41.440]  How consensual is it when that somebody says, I'm going to stab you with this thing or you
[41:41.440 --> 41:43.600]  take this, you know, breathalyzer, it's a lot.
[41:43.600 --> 41:48.400]  Well, I've seen reports in the, where the cops taser you, if you refuse the breathalyzer.
[41:48.400 --> 41:50.680]  Well, they shouldn't in Texas.
[41:50.680 --> 41:55.120]  It's total insanity. Well, I mean, just at the organic level, as a human being looking
[41:55.120 --> 41:59.800]  at this, imagine if I was seeing old film footage of Nazi Germany and if they weren't
[41:59.800 --> 42:03.800]  just rounding the people up to go to the death camps or the work camps, imagine if I saw
[42:03.800 --> 42:06.600]  images of guys in black uniforms drawing blood.
[42:06.600 --> 42:10.920]  I don't want to, I don't want to start another fight, but quite frankly, you know, the third
[42:10.920 --> 42:16.880]  right didn't impose its will on people. People that the Hitler wrote into power on a groundswell
[42:16.880 --> 42:21.440]  of popularity, fan by the same kind of fears you've been seeing today, fear of people that
[42:21.440 --> 42:26.680]  are different, fear of outsiders, fear of the same kind of things that, that, that people
[42:26.680 --> 42:31.840]  have a tendency to give up rights very often in times of crisis. But what they don't really
[42:31.840 --> 42:36.520]  realize is that's a non-reversible cog that what happens is if you think giving up your
[42:36.520 --> 42:39.400]  right is any way to protect and preserve that right, you're kidding yourself.
[42:39.400 --> 42:43.280]  Well, Mr. Goldstein, you're absolutely right. History shows that Thomas Jefferson Benjamin
[42:43.280 --> 42:47.040]  Franklin constantly talked about that if you'll give up liberty for so-called security, you're
[42:47.040 --> 42:52.280]  going to get neither. And historically, what you should be afraid of is the organized state.
[42:52.280 --> 42:57.400]  It is always the great engine of mass murder and enslavement, hundreds of millions killed
[42:57.400 --> 43:02.120]  by the state last century, and these poor ignorant fools have no idea, I mean, just
[43:02.120 --> 43:07.040]  the archetypal image of guys in paramilitary outfits sucking your blood. I mean, this is
[43:07.040 --> 43:08.040]  insane, sir.
[43:08.040 --> 43:12.040]  There's no question about it. And Alex, if you'll keep preaching and get some more
[43:12.040 --> 43:16.160]  converts, we can actually stop this thing because until the citizenry is willing to
[43:16.160 --> 43:19.480]  insist on their rights, we all are in danger of losing it.
[43:19.480 --> 43:23.400]  Well, Mr. Goldstein, I want to get your take on this. A, how do we stop it? B, you know,
[43:23.400 --> 43:27.440]  legally, what are they violating here? So people know what to say if they come up on
[43:27.440 --> 43:32.360]  the bloodsuckers. But the larger issue here is you know what it's going to be. It's not
[43:32.360 --> 43:36.160]  just if you don't give me a breathalyzer, I'll take a shot. Now district attorneys, I saw
[43:36.160 --> 43:41.440]  one in Illinois said, well, we want blood anyways because it's better in court. So next,
[43:41.440 --> 43:44.760]  it's just we're going to take your blood. They're already taking DNA at checkpoints
[43:44.760 --> 43:45.760]  now.
[43:45.760 --> 43:50.920]  Well, all of that should concern the citizenry. You know, at some point here, we may have,
[43:50.920 --> 43:59.080]  you know, the Orwellian nightmare, you know, is almost the thing of the past. We've become
[43:59.080 --> 44:06.520]  accustomed to accepting these kind of practices. And it's only, you know, it's only when you're
[44:06.520 --> 44:10.320]  billed vigilant. It's only when you're willing to protest. It's only when you're willing
[44:10.320 --> 44:15.600]  to assert your rights. And, you know, these rights are designed to protect the innocent,
[44:15.600 --> 44:23.160]  not just the guilty. And it's important for people who aren't in trouble, people who aren't
[44:23.160 --> 44:28.320]  driving while they're drunk, but understand the necessity for insisting on protecting
[44:28.320 --> 44:32.080]  everyone's rights because it's only when we protect the rights of the least of us that
[44:32.080 --> 44:34.480]  the rest of us can expect to be protected ourselves.
[44:34.480 --> 44:40.960]  By the way, I should have told people your bio. You're just an absolutely amazing lawyer
[44:40.960 --> 44:44.680]  with just an incredible pedigree, running some of the biggest national associations.
[44:44.680 --> 44:50.080]  And, you know, one of the most looked up to experts on constitutional rights and all
[44:50.080 --> 44:51.080]  these other procedures.
[44:51.080 --> 44:52.880]  Well, I'm flattered. You should say that.
[44:52.880 --> 44:56.320]  Well, I'm just looking at your bio here. It's amazing. In a nutshell, what do you do
[44:56.320 --> 45:00.560]  if you roll up? You haven't been drinking. No, I don't want to violate my Fourth Amendment.
[45:00.560 --> 45:04.200]  No, I don't want you to make me do a breathalyzer, intimidating me into it. What do you do when
[45:04.200 --> 45:08.280]  they grab you? They'll taser you of your resist. They're coming with the needles. How do you,
[45:08.280 --> 45:10.240]  how do you go after them after the fact?
[45:10.240 --> 45:14.560]  Well, the natural inclination of everyone, I will say that I've represented a lot of
[45:14.560 --> 45:19.320]  lawyers and judges, and we're probably the worst at it, is to exceed to the assertions
[45:19.320 --> 45:23.560]  of lawful authority. That is, you know, like when the officer says, why are you driving
[45:23.560 --> 45:27.520]  so fast? And everybody immediately explains to them which amounts to a confession and
[45:27.520 --> 45:34.840]  an admission. Literally, it is up to the citizen. But when citizens insist on their rights,
[45:34.840 --> 45:43.520]  they individually, collectively serve the good of all by protecting everyone's rights.
[45:43.520 --> 45:46.440]  Now, it's the same thing in court. You have to demand your rights. They're not just going
[45:46.440 --> 45:47.440]  to be given to you.
[45:47.440 --> 45:51.280]  Absolutely. And that's why you have a right to counsel is because to have someone else
[45:51.280 --> 45:54.840]  there, to have a lawyer there, to have someone who will speak up to your rights and meet
[45:54.840 --> 45:59.400]  it, not with a smirk, not with a smile, but because they're serious about it. And judges
[45:59.400 --> 46:05.200]  understand that. And you know, it is only when all the citizenry stand up for their
[46:05.200 --> 46:09.480]  rights and stand up for the rights, not just in the courtroom, not just on the side of
[46:09.480 --> 46:15.960]  the road, but at the ballot box. Because these folks, for the most part, elected public officials,
[46:15.960 --> 46:21.600]  both in Texas, district attorneys and judges, have to run for reelection. And if they aren't
[46:21.600 --> 46:26.240]  respecting the rights of the citizens, it's up to the citizens to make sure that they
[46:26.240 --> 46:32.320]  will, that they do. And if not, to get someone in office who will protect individual citizens'
[46:32.320 --> 46:33.320]  rights and liberties.
[46:33.320 --> 46:37.560]  Well, sir, what would you do? I'm going to Virginia next week to cover a big elite government
[46:37.560 --> 46:41.600]  meeting. And I almost know I'm back because this happens all over the country. Cops are
[46:41.600 --> 46:48.000]  going to walk up while I'm on a city sidewalk, you know, they're in Virginia. And they're
[46:48.000 --> 46:51.280]  going to come up and say, you're not allowed to be here with your cameras. You're not,
[46:51.280 --> 46:55.880]  I don't care if you have a press pass, just leave. And then there'll be a national crew
[46:55.880 --> 46:59.680]  there. They'll probably leave them alone and always hurts my, I mean, I'm sad for them
[46:59.680 --> 47:03.600]  stabbing America in the heart. Or if I was to have a protest sign, there's going to be
[47:03.600 --> 47:07.480]  protesters there. I bet cops will come up and say, leave, you don't have a permit. And
[47:07.480 --> 47:11.560]  of course, that's how all this works. They turn a right into a privilege. A permit is
[47:11.560 --> 47:15.400]  a license to do something that would be illegal. I don't need a permit. You know, it started
[47:15.400 --> 47:19.080]  out with blocking roads for parades. That's one thing, but not being on the street corner.
[47:19.080 --> 47:23.240]  I mean, what would you do about all these no protest zones and this, just this incredible
[47:23.240 --> 47:28.040]  avarice to attack the heart of the bill of rights, the constitution, the heart of what
[47:28.040 --> 47:30.320]  makes the red, white and blue so great?
[47:30.320 --> 47:37.160]  Well, you know, whether we go and look at Gandhi or one of our own Martin Luther King,
[47:37.160 --> 47:43.600]  there is a point at which when citizens' rights are in jeopardy, that citizens have an innate,
[47:43.600 --> 47:48.880]  not necessarily a recognized right, but an innate right to protest. And that protest
[47:48.880 --> 47:53.480]  can include civil disobedience, civil disobedience that understands, say, look, I may be punished
[47:53.480 --> 48:00.200]  for this, but I want the system to understand that I'm not willing to exceed to this without
[48:00.200 --> 48:08.000]  protest and large political movements that have changed the course of the world and particularly
[48:08.000 --> 48:14.840]  our country have been started with the seed of civil disobedience. I'm not suggesting
[48:14.840 --> 48:19.600]  that everybody should go out and violate every law they don't agree with, but at some point,
[48:19.600 --> 48:26.600]  in some place, in some times, it is necessary to teach those entrusted and who are sworn
[48:26.600 --> 48:32.720]  to preserve and protect us, that they have an obligation to follow the constitution,
[48:32.720 --> 48:35.360]  which is a supreme law of the land, just like the citizens do.
[48:35.360 --> 48:43.320]  Well, Mr. Goldstein, I also want to ask you, why do you think an Austin cop, overnight,
[48:43.320 --> 48:47.280]  now will come up and say, you can't protest, you can't demonstrate, they know they've lost
[48:47.280 --> 48:51.600]  suits, they know they're in trouble for it, but they're being ordered to do this. How
[48:51.600 --> 48:54.120]  did our government, I mean, just right here in Austin, you live in...
[48:54.120 --> 48:57.640]  Can they get away with it, Alex? But why would he want to hurt America? Why would
[48:57.640 --> 49:00.920]  you want to do that? Because it's convenient, because it makes
[49:00.920 --> 49:05.720]  their jobs simpler. People don't like to be a program. People don't like the disruption.
[49:05.720 --> 49:08.960]  People don't like to be confronted with things they don't want to see and hear.
[49:08.960 --> 49:11.840]  That's another thing, a cop will always walk up and say, we got a complaint, you're out
[49:11.840 --> 49:13.800]  here on this sidewalk. Well, so what?
[49:13.800 --> 49:17.760]  And by the way, they usually, the complaint relates to what you're saying, not how you're
[49:17.760 --> 49:19.640]  doing it. Exactly.
[49:19.640 --> 49:23.760]  And the point of the First Amendment is the Bill of Rights were designed to protect
[49:23.760 --> 49:27.840]  the minority from the majority. You don't have to have the money. If all of the...
[49:27.840 --> 49:35.160]  If all this permitted is a popular view, we don't need the Constitution. The Constitution
[49:35.160 --> 49:45.040]  was designed to protect the unpopular from the popular. And that's how political movement
[49:45.040 --> 49:53.360]  starts. That's how we change attitudes. Very often, if all we needed was the popular, the
[49:53.360 --> 49:58.600]  mainstream, the majority's point of view, we wouldn't need a Bill of Rights. The framers
[49:58.600 --> 50:03.640]  of our Constitution labored long and hard after the Constitution was written, signed,
[50:03.640 --> 50:08.080]  and enacted to find a place for the rights of the few.
[50:08.080 --> 50:14.560]  Bottom line, bottom line, this is unconstitutional, taking blood without a warrant.
[50:14.560 --> 50:19.560]  Taking blood without a warrant is unconstitutional. But they're doing it. Why? It's insane.
[50:19.560 --> 50:23.520]  No. It's because they can't. So stand up to them, Alex. I got to run, but I just want
[50:23.520 --> 50:26.080]  to tell you that thank you for giving me the opportunity to present this.
[50:26.080 --> 50:29.080]  Sure. Any websites that you want to fire off if people learn more?
[50:29.080 --> 50:37.680]  No. Just be vigilant. Use the web. Use the Internet. It's a remarkable tool that, unlike
[50:37.680 --> 50:41.120]  many of our cities and towns, doesn't have a censor.
[50:41.120 --> 50:45.760]  All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us. There goes Mr. Goldstein. Gerald, thank
[50:45.760 --> 50:46.760]  you.
[50:46.760 --> 50:47.760]  My pleasure, Alex.
[50:47.760 --> 50:51.160]  We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, where the Marines are training to confiscate
[50:51.160 --> 50:54.320]  your guns.
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[51:51.600 --> 52:17.480]  the info war today. This story comes from the greatest storybook, so we know it's true,
[52:17.480 --> 52:23.800]  though it seems so untrue, so incredible it seems science-fictional. It even goes beyond
[52:23.800 --> 52:30.800]  a seemingly science-fictional story to that category of a horror story. But as horrible
[52:30.800 --> 52:37.280]  as it was, it was done, done out of desperation by a Moabite king who was fighting a desperate
[52:37.280 --> 52:43.360]  battle against three opposing kings. It, of course, was long, long ago that he did it,
[52:43.360 --> 52:49.560]  and it did work. The raging battle was going against him greatly, and he was about to be
[52:49.560 --> 52:57.400]  overcome and overrun, so he did it, as horrible and difficult as it was to do. And he did
[52:57.400 --> 53:05.160]  it in the open, upon the wall of the city for all to see. It worked. It caused the battle
[53:05.160 --> 53:11.440]  to turn and his enemy to flee. This is how it is said in the greatest storybook, and
[53:11.440 --> 53:17.840]  I quote, and there came great wrath against Israel, and they departed from him and returned
[53:17.840 --> 53:24.480]  to their own land. In quote, what did he do? We tell you the rest of that another untold
[53:24.480 --> 53:31.880]  story at anotheruntoldstory.com, and tell you how the same power is being used in our
[53:31.880 --> 53:50.520]  land today.
[54:19.520 --> 54:26.240]  I just said, oh, he's in this newscast. Get him on, Eddie Bear. And he got him on. It's
[54:26.240 --> 54:33.880]  so anti-freedom. You heard him admit all over the country without even having warrants.
[54:33.880 --> 54:43.440]  Now, in San Antonio, it's a fake rubber standpoint, which is almost worse in a way. And I don't
[54:43.440 --> 54:50.960]  know how they've warped the government, the police, to follow this and go along with this.
[54:50.960 --> 54:55.000]  You know what? I want to go into a clip. I'm going to put the rest of this coming up,
[54:55.000 --> 55:02.880]  and this next hour, or the hour after it. I want to play a clip from the road to tyranny,
[55:02.880 --> 55:07.240]  because this is a Marine Corps officer, and he showed me all the documents. He'd been
[55:07.240 --> 55:11.080]  a police officer, and he started a computer company, and he was over out of his mansion
[55:11.080 --> 55:16.080]  visiting when this happened, because he ran into an army checkpoint on I-35. He'd heard
[55:16.080 --> 55:19.880]  my show, made him so mad. He wanted to talk to me. He showed me all the documents, photos.
[55:19.880 --> 55:26.040]  I was already aware of the programs by then, but when he did it in 88, 89, it was secret.
[55:26.040 --> 55:28.400]  And I want to play a few minutes of this, and then we'll come back with another guest
[55:28.400 --> 55:34.840]  coming on. But when you hear the Marines quote, want to train for urban warfare, this is to
[55:34.840 --> 55:40.360]  acclimate the public. Just like when you sit in your backyard every day drinking iced tea,
[55:40.360 --> 55:43.480]  you notice that the owls will start coming out and looking at you. Notice the squirtles
[55:43.480 --> 55:48.720]  will come up near you. That's what the Marines and your cities are about, acclimating everybody.
[55:48.720 --> 55:53.160]  And I have all the documents of interviewed emergency managers. It's not my opinion. We
[55:53.160 --> 55:57.800]  have discovered that the military industrial complex that just made $7 trillion off this
[55:57.800 --> 56:03.520]  fake war in stealing wants it all, folks, and they brainwash the cops, and they're coming
[56:03.520 --> 56:07.640]  for us. And they're going to put carbon taxes on all of us. I mean, this is going to be
[56:07.640 --> 56:14.040]  a reign of terror. It doesn't have to happen. Sucking our blood warrantlessly on the side
[56:14.040 --> 56:24.040]  of the road isn't freedom. It's hyper tyranny. Here it is. Our team was in Swansborough, North
[56:24.040 --> 56:30.480]  Carolina back in 2000. In February of 2002, two special forces trainings were killed by
[56:30.480 --> 56:35.200]  a sheriff's deputy. You ask why? They were trying to disarm him. They were trying to
[56:35.200 --> 56:40.720]  take over local law enforcement. This is the new type of training that our military are
[56:40.720 --> 56:45.920]  being given to overthrow the civilian government, the elected government, right here in the
[56:45.920 --> 56:50.440]  United States. And shockingly enough, there were actually two cases of this in the same
[56:50.440 --> 56:54.240]  week in North Carolina where they were being trained to overthrow the civilian government.
[56:54.240 --> 57:13.720]  This looks like a gag on Mr. Wright. Get these lights ready. Let's go. Straighten out. Stunt
[57:13.720 --> 57:30.440]  out. Every day in America, militarized SWAT teams kill innocent people and they're rarely
[57:30.440 --> 57:36.520]  held accountable. More often, they kill their own officers and still they're not held accountable.
[57:36.520 --> 57:41.080]  What's happening in America? How do they become so militarized? We interviewed a former Marine
[57:41.080 --> 57:46.120]  Corps officer who in 1989, while he was in the Marine Corps, was serving search warrants
[57:46.120 --> 57:50.520]  on American citizens' homes and businesses. Just start at the beginning, of course. A
[57:50.520 --> 57:57.560]  little bit about your past, how you first got involved in the military and some of the
[57:57.560 --> 58:01.880]  things you did and then later in life, some of the questions that you started raising
[58:01.880 --> 58:09.200]  to yourself after you've been a police officer. Okay. I started out at the Marine's, tested
[58:09.200 --> 58:13.240]  real high in the ASVAB, which is the Armed Forces' location. I have the two batteries.
[58:13.240 --> 58:19.240]  I did real well in that and it was an MP5800 military police. From that, I was sent over
[58:19.240 --> 58:26.520]  to various duty stations. I started interested in civilian law enforcement, so I was able
[58:26.520 --> 58:29.960]  to take part in joining the military police. We're going to come back and play five more
[58:29.960 --> 58:38.880]  minutes of this. Inga William-Peperon, stay with us. Thank you for listening to GCN. Visit
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[59:48.920 --> 1:00:02.720]  Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. Government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does
[1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:12.160]  he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network. And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
[1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:19.040]  This thought of interest in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint military
[1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:24.240]  police and civilian police exercises. We've seen the early worker training all across
[1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:31.560]  the country. The black helicopters, the special forces in cities. And it seems like it's been
[1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:37.240]  ratcheted up in the last five years from just basic training to actual live fire in city
[1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:41.360]  streets. What type of relationship did you have with law enforcement when you were in
[1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:50.400]  the Marine Corps? Very cohesive. A lot of interaction. 1988 and 1989, like I said prior,
[1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:55.960]  I helped assist in three search warrants. A lot of entry team operations, giving civilian
[1:00:55.960 --> 1:01:03.160]  law enforcement advice and critiquing how they're doing that to rape such as crack houses
[1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:08.640]  or supposed terrorist organizations as far as multiple entry points of a home, whether
[1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:14.400]  it be through the roof, the windows in front door or a combination of all at the same time.
[1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:23.080]  So you were actively as a member of the United States Marine Corps active duty out with civilian
[1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:28.960]  law enforcement serving search warrants to homes? That's correct. There weren't missions
[1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:34.640]  that were called exercises, but it was actual with real what we call combatants, real life.
[1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:42.360]  It was the real deal, helping execute search warrants. Late 80s, I've actually been on
[1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:48.760]  point with an MP5 and I was not in a police uniform, not a police flag vest on and a police
[1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:58.360]  jacket and black BDUs. I think you're obviously drug dealers. One, maybe. What were the other
[1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:07.680]  rates concerned? Pawn shop owner. One was a pawn shop owner and the other was for joint
[1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:15.600]  working with ATF. As a member of the Marine Corps, David, you're telling us you raided
[1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:24.040]  a civilian business with the VATF going after guns? It was the business owner's home. Oh,
[1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:32.040]  the business owner's home. The homes were civilian homes in some upper middle class
[1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:40.160]  to white collar homes. We're going to play all of it coming up next hour, but this is
[1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:45.200]  the point here. People think that I just get on air and say they're getting ready for martial
[1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:51.240]  law and these urban warfare takeover drills are that I've interviewed emergency managers.
[1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:55.720]  I've interviewed police chiefs where the Delta Force comes in from the Army with bags of
[1:02:55.720 --> 1:03:02.680]  money trying to buy them off. Why do you think they've flown $60 plus billion worth of cash
[1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:10.120]  into the troops? It's to corrupt them. Every time the Army and the Marine Corps raided
[1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:19.080]  citizens homes, that was a violation of Posse Commentatus. Each case is a serious felony.
[1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:23.560]  Now they've watered it down to say, well, during emergencies, we can't, but they're
[1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:30.280]  already covertly doing it everywhere. The Austin cops, I know we've got military here
[1:03:30.280 --> 1:03:35.520]  for at least seven years. You don't think I don't know. You don't think I don't know
[1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:38.720]  what you're up to and what you're doing. I mean, this is all over the country, but right
[1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:45.280]  where I live, this treason's going on. Out at the Berkshire airport, it's a hive of
[1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:52.480]  villainy. Let me tell you, you're the target, folks. You are the target in those murdering
[1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:57.760]  criminals from the BATF, murderals, people at Waco, everything else they've done. I mean,
[1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:03.560]  they are a bunch of lawless crooks. You understand? They are criminals with the military engaging
[1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:07.040]  American people. You know, I have all this footage of them pulling buses over the Army
[1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:10.880]  and searching the buses, and then these people are in there posting on YouTube going, yeah,
[1:04:10.880 --> 1:04:14.560]  I've done that. I'm the military. Yeah, we're running ops. It's good for the country. It's
[1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:22.560]  post 9-Eleven. No, it was before 9-Eleven. It was before 9-Eleven. And then you said
[1:04:22.560 --> 1:04:25.880]  before 9-Eleven in all your documents, there'll soon be a terror attack, and then we're going
[1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:30.360]  to take over. See, I've got your whole game plan. Most of you don't even know what you're
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[1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:59.920]  Ease the T-Rex of political talk. Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
[1:07:59.920 --> 1:08:06.440]  Well, William Pepper has seen quite a bit. He's a top American human rights lawyer.
[1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:12.440]  He's also a barrister in England. His friends with Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, advisors
[1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:20.680]  to him. If I try to go over everything he's done, it's quite alive. His book, Active State,
[1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:24.800]  The Murder of Martin Luther King, was out in Hardback and just came out in paperback.
[1:08:24.800 --> 1:08:29.240]  It's excellent. I've read it open and shut that they killed him and had a Patsy as they
[1:08:29.240 --> 1:08:32.800]  always do. We have a government documents like Operation Northwoods describes how to
[1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:38.480]  frame Patsies. It's very disgusting how they do it, how they kill who they want, how they
[1:08:38.480 --> 1:08:42.120]  do what they want, always wrapping themselves in the flag when they're the ones destroying
[1:08:42.120 --> 1:08:47.160]  our name, our currency, our future. It's disgusting.
[1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:51.040]  But I want to get him to talk about the murder, you know, condensed version in the 15 minutes
[1:08:51.040 --> 1:08:55.600]  we've got with him of Martin Luther King, which he's the expert on. He didn't even believe
[1:08:55.600 --> 1:08:58.680]  it for a while. He had to learn the evidence to go through it, but he's the preeminent expert
[1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:03.080]  on that. Interviewed many times, Jeremy Joel Ray and others. But then now it's coming out
[1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:09.200]  open and shut, BBC, NBC, everybody admitting. Three CIA section bosses there at the Ambassador
[1:09:09.200 --> 1:09:14.400]  Hotel, the Coroner Report. We always knew this, but now it's admitted that the government
[1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:19.640]  killed Bobby. I mean, they're just admitting it. So I also want to get his take on, what
[1:09:19.640 --> 1:09:29.560]  is it like, Mr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper, to see all of this unfolding, to have lived long
[1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:34.480]  enough to now see, you're not being called a conspiracy theorist now?
[1:09:34.480 --> 1:09:45.080]  Well, I think they probably will still. Alex also used that kind of condemnation as we
[1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:53.920]  go forward in the Bob Kennedy case. I have agreed to become lead counsel for Sirhan
[1:09:53.920 --> 1:10:01.400]  having gone through that file very carefully over the course of the last year, and after
[1:10:01.400 --> 1:10:09.320]  his former lawyer died, Larry Teeter died, I came on. I had discussed the case with Larry
[1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:16.480]  many times, and of course encouraged him. But as you rightly say, I think it's now pretty
[1:10:16.480 --> 1:10:23.080]  much opened up, and that doesn't mean there's going to be any less obstruction. In fact,
[1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:27.640]  I'm finding more and more obstruction in the state of California from the Department of
[1:10:27.640 --> 1:10:34.680]  Corrections to some basic work that we have to do with Sirhan. And so they're going to
[1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:40.320]  make it as tough as they can. But I think from my reading of the evidence at this point,
[1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:48.520]  this is actually an easier case than Martin's assassination. At this point in time, I think
[1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:56.160]  it's an easier case to open up, just in terms of the factual evidence and the forensic evidence.
[1:10:56.160 --> 1:11:01.320]  Using the conspiracy theory label, I've seen how the White House is calling it exaggerations,
[1:11:01.320 --> 1:11:06.080]  conspiracy theories with Scott McClellan. We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us
[1:11:06.080 --> 1:11:12.880]  that they lied about WMDs and engaged in deception and propaganda knowingly and willfully, because
[1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:17.000]  we have all the documents, we have the executive orders, we have the White House memo, the
[1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:23.720]  Downing Street memo, we have the CIA assessments where Bush blacked it out. So we know they
[1:11:23.720 --> 1:11:28.960]  lied. We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us this, but the fact that they would say
[1:11:28.960 --> 1:11:32.400]  he's lying now, it's just incredible.
[1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:40.560]  Yeah. Well, I'm afraid you've got a gang of criminals there, and the crimes they've
[1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:46.720]  committed are the worst imaginable. When you look at international law and international
[1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:52.280]  human rights law, we see a whole range of crimes against humanity, war crimes, crimes
[1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:59.040]  of war, and of course the number one Nuremberg crime, that of waging a war of aggression.
[1:11:59.040 --> 1:12:04.360]  So these people have got to be held accountable at some point in time, and I've asked some
[1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:11.000]  of my colleagues at Oxford and some over here to begin to put together a bill of indictment
[1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:18.560]  related to everything that's going on with respect to extraordinary rendition and torture
[1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:19.560]  and aggression.
[1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:24.360]  Well, look at Vincent Boogliosi, he's coming out with a book saying Bush is a murderer
[1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:26.560]  and he can convict him right now.
[1:12:26.560 --> 1:12:33.960]  Yeah, I think that there's a groundswell of that kind of opinion, and I think as soon
[1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:39.160]  as these people are out of office, there should be an attempt to have them prosecuted, which
[1:12:39.160 --> 1:12:45.320]  will not get very far in this country, but frankly, there are a number of treaty signatories
[1:12:45.320 --> 1:12:51.240]  in other states that I think are just waiting for the opportunity to commence the prosecutions.
[1:12:51.240 --> 1:12:55.000]  Well, I look forward to that or we'll never get our good name back, I think that's what's
[1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:58.960]  most important, it's kind of like Germany had the Nuremberg trials and to some extent,
[1:12:58.960 --> 1:13:03.320]  you know, then they could move on, I mean, we are now anathema, we are now seen globally
[1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:08.920]  as the Nazis, and unfortunately, rightfully so, we've killed over a million Iraqis, and
[1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:12.560]  people say, well, not in my name, well, they did it in our name, and so we've got to do
[1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:16.040]  something about this, your take on that, sir.
[1:13:16.040 --> 1:13:24.520]  Well, yeah, I mean, my take on it is exactly that, I lamented that there was never accountability
[1:13:24.520 --> 1:13:33.360]  for what happened in Vietnam, you know, I was a journalist over there in 66, and my observations
[1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:39.080]  led ultimately to my being able to convince Martin King to oppose the war, which he did
[1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:42.280]  in April 4, 67, and of course, they killed him a year later.
[1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:45.080]  Well, see, that's what I hate about this interview is the time we've got, I've got to have you
[1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:51.160]  back again, because I want all your opinions, your take, you've seen so much, it's amazing,
[1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:54.240]  and I know you don't like to talk about yourself, but let's get into Martin Luther King, let's
[1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:57.920]  get into Bobby, but spend a few minutes first, talk about how instrumental you've been, the
[1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:02.080]  things you've seen, what Martin Luther King was like behind the scenes, what Bobby Kennedy
[1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:06.800]  was like, what, you know, all these other, I mean, you've really been part of history.
[1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:12.280]  Well, yeah, there's a sadness there, because of the history that I've been a part of has
[1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:19.000]  been on the decline in terms of, in terms of democracy in this republic.
[1:14:19.000 --> 1:14:27.800]  Martin was like many of us, a believer in the system and a believer in the hope of American
[1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:35.080]  democracy, and he gradually became alienated and frustrated with it, particularly as it
[1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:42.560]  affected the slaughter of the innocents, and as a result of American foreign policy.
[1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:47.280]  When he saw the photographs that I put in front of him when I came back from Vietnam,
[1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:52.320]  I published nothing and developed nothing when I was over there, I held it all till
[1:14:52.320 --> 1:14:57.320]  I came back, and when he read the Ramparts piece that came out January 67, and then
[1:14:57.320 --> 1:15:04.960]  I opened the files to him, he actually wept, that the devastation, the burning, the mutilation
[1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:14.200]  of just the scores and scores of children and women in village after village has never
[1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:20.760]  been acknowledged, and there's never been accountability or not.
[1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:26.240]  I felt desperately about that, particularly when Amelie, which was just one of hundreds
[1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:33.240]  of villagers, when the Amelie massacre came out and Syharsh eventually got it published
[1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:42.840]  and brought it out, I thought that might trigger some serious prosecutions of the aggressors
[1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:50.440]  in this country who had led that kind of devastation, but it didn't, and it all passed away.
[1:15:50.440 --> 1:15:57.160]  And I'm determined to do what I can do anyway to see that this does not happen with respect
[1:15:57.160 --> 1:16:02.640]  to what we have done to this ancient civilization in Iraq and that the beautiful people, you
[1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:07.840]  know, we've just destroyed it and destroyed them, as you rightly say, killed over a million
[1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:17.080]  and displaced another couple of million and just devastated a country and a people.
[1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:18.080]  And for what?
[1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:26.400]  The pieces of lies and the hunger and the desire for oil, I mean, that clearly seems
[1:16:26.400 --> 1:16:28.280]  what's been behind it.
[1:16:28.280 --> 1:16:35.760]  But Martin was gradually coming in the late 60s to the awareness that he had to confront
[1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:42.440]  power with the massive power of people, and that was what got him killed because he was,
[1:16:42.440 --> 1:16:44.560]  this was non-negotiable for him.
[1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:49.520]  He was bringing about a half a million people to Washington in the spring of 68 to live
[1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:56.520]  in Resurrection City and to go visit Congresspeople, and the Army believed, I think quite rightly,
[1:16:56.520 --> 1:17:01.520]  that there was probably going to be a revolution because they weren't going to get put back
[1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:02.520]  into the budget.
[1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:08.280]  The social programs that had been taken out, instead, that massive humanity, impoverished
[1:17:08.280 --> 1:17:13.600]  humanity, was going to become increasingly angry, and there we would have had probably
[1:17:13.600 --> 1:17:18.240]  a revolution in the nation's capital that they didn't have enough troops to put down.
[1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:20.120]  Westmoreland wanted 200,000 more.
[1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:21.600]  They didn't have those for him.
[1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:23.080]  They didn't have the troops to put down.
[1:17:23.080 --> 1:17:30.120]  And so the Army knew the only way to stop this from happening was to kill King.
[1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:34.240]  And sir, I would tell you today, we have the government documents, I've interviewed the
[1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:38.120]  Marine Corps officers, they have been training for decades, a long strategic plan starting
[1:17:38.120 --> 1:17:41.640]  back under Reagan, but carried by Clinton and others forward.
[1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:45.880]  For martial law, these urban warfare drills they do, Marines running real checkpoints
[1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:51.800]  is to acclimatize Bush in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act says it's for
[1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:56.880]  martial law, and then in his PDD 51, which as you know, Homeland Security isn't even
[1:17:56.880 --> 1:18:02.560]  allowed to see in Congress, but the cover sheet says he is the government, and they
[1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:03.560]  can pass that.
[1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:10.160]  I mean, I see him owning both parties, obviously the neocons being a particularly virulent expression
[1:18:10.160 --> 1:18:15.080]  of this, but I see the military industrial complex knowing they're doing things through
[1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:19.640]  globalization that are going to hurt Americans, and I see them heading off not just to pass
[1:18:19.640 --> 1:18:25.360]  by killing Martin Luther King or Bobby Kennedy, a peaceful revolution, I see them now in their
[1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:27.240]  own revolution against us.
[1:18:27.240 --> 1:18:34.680]  Yeah, I think the country is probably closer to martial law than it has ever been in my
[1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:40.240]  lifetime, and they have all of the, as you rightly say, they have all the mechanisms
[1:18:40.240 --> 1:18:41.760]  in place.
[1:18:41.760 --> 1:18:47.800]  And it's only a question of something that could trigger it.
[1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:51.120]  And there is only one party, that's also evident.
[1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:55.520]  You're not going to have any serious, you're not going to have any serious opposition.
[1:18:55.520 --> 1:19:00.960]  So I think that's right, we live in very perilous times, and I think as the economy
[1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:08.280]  gets worse and worse, and from all the economists from my speak, there's no question in the
[1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:13.080]  minds of many that we're going right back to 1929, 1930.
[1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:17.920]  But that has happened, there doesn't seem to be a way to reverse this downward plunge,
[1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:22.400]  because it permeates every aspect of economic life in this country.
[1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:23.400]  Corruption.
[1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:29.360]  It's just corporate looting and raiding, and they're all leaving the country.
[1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:33.960]  Dr. Pepper is just amazing, and Dr. William Pepper, we're going to come back and get in
[1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:38.680]  to Martin Luther King's murder, and then get into Bobby's murder.
[1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:39.680]  So important.
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[1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:24.120]  That's Brad, my friend.
[1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:30.920]  Mr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper, has agreed to stay with us about 15 minutes to the next hour,
[1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:34.360]  so we have plenty of time to talk about everything that's happening.
[1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:36.800]  We've got a quick break here in a minute, we've got a long segment.
[1:24:36.800 --> 1:24:41.640]  Sir, let's go ahead and you've got the floor, you want to cover Martin first, Bobby first,
[1:24:41.640 --> 1:24:44.160]  I mean, of those two, what do you want to cover first?
[1:24:44.160 --> 1:24:50.120]  Well, I mean, I suppose we could summarize Martin King since his assassination was first
[1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:55.680]  in time.
[1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:56.680]  It's a long story.
[1:24:56.680 --> 1:25:04.920]  As you know, the case has been an involvement of mine for over 30 years and I met him when
[1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:11.320]  I came back from Vietnam, he read a piece I wrote in ramparts and saw the photographs
[1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:18.160]  of burned children and mutilated civilians and I asked to meet with me and I did and
[1:25:18.160 --> 1:25:29.240]  opened the files to him and he was very moved and upset and asked me to work with him last
[1:25:29.240 --> 1:25:34.720]  year and we formed the National Conference for New Politics which was designed to promote
[1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:45.800]  it a King Spock third party ticket in the 1968 elections and top of that, he was planning
[1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:51.760]  to bring half a million people to Washington to protest the removal of funds from the social
[1:25:51.760 --> 1:25:52.760]  program.
[1:25:52.760 --> 1:26:02.080]  So, I only knew him and only worked with him that last year, then they killed him and I
[1:26:02.080 --> 1:26:07.120]  just sort of walked away from politics.
[1:26:07.120 --> 1:26:13.880]  Bob Kennedy had a suite in Atlanta and with his night, we buried Martin, he asked me and
[1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:22.080]  some others, Spock and Julian Bonn, those to come up to talk with him about his presidential
[1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:25.120]  campaign and he asked me to work on it.
[1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:31.200]  I had been Bob Kennedy's citizen chairman in Westchester County as a very young guy
[1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:36.520]  in 1964 when he ran for the Senate.
[1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:43.360]  I just decided I wasn't going to do that and after they killed Martin, I just walked away
[1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:46.280]  from politics.
[1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:53.480]  Nine years later, Abernathy called me and asked me to go to the prison and interrogate James
[1:26:53.480 --> 1:26:57.240]  Earl Ray and his presence and I thought he'd gone around the bend.
[1:26:57.240 --> 1:27:03.160]  I never knew anything about the case, whom they had gotten the right guy and like many
[1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:09.320]  Americans, lively accepted the government's explanation as we are raised and trained to
[1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:12.320]  do.
[1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:18.760]  So, I went up and after about six months, it took me to try to prepare for that and I
[1:27:18.760 --> 1:27:25.120]  read everything I could on the case and spent five hours putting James under enormous stress
[1:27:25.120 --> 1:27:31.720]  and we came away from that five hour interview convinced, this was in August of 1978, convinced
[1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:35.640]  that he was not guilty of the murder.
[1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:42.000]  We didn't know what other role he might have played and I began, he raised so many questions
[1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:48.880]  that I just began to quietly go into Memphis and live an alternative life off and on in
[1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:58.040]  the streets to try to get as much shoe leather information as I could, James agreed to several
[1:27:58.040 --> 1:27:59.040]  more.
[1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:01.760]  So, you did a bunch of detective work for a long time drifting around?
[1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:09.000]  Oh, yeah, no, it was really at one point, at one point I had 22 investigators working
[1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:14.160]  for me and on very specific pieces of the case, they didn't even know each other what
[1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:22.560]  they were doing as a team, but I plowed a lot of resources, I put about a million dollars
[1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:29.640]  of my own money that I earned in practicing over 25 years, I guess I put about a million
[1:28:29.640 --> 1:28:33.480]  dollars in to try to get to the bottom of it.
[1:28:33.480 --> 1:28:38.480]  James kept asking me to represent him and I kept refusing until I said, until I'm sure
[1:28:38.480 --> 1:28:43.200]  you had no knowing involvement, I won't do that, I won't represent you.
[1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:53.000]  Only in 1988, I got to the point that was now, over 10 years later, that I became convinced
[1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:57.800]  of his total innocence and knowing that he was an unknowing passive used by the government.
[1:28:57.800 --> 1:29:02.000]  So I agreed to represent him, I took his case up to the Supreme Court where we were denied
[1:29:02.000 --> 1:29:06.960]  tertiary and then I just continued.
[1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:11.600]  By the way, let's be clear, you didn't just believe Ray over decades, you spent over a
[1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:14.680]  million dollars researching it to track it all back.
[1:29:14.680 --> 1:29:20.480]  Stay there, Dr. William Pepper, amazing individual, he has lived history, he is living it now,
[1:29:20.480 --> 1:29:23.520]  we really appreciate him spending time with us today, long segment doctor when we come
[1:29:23.520 --> 1:29:28.680]  back plenty of time to break out and tell the story of the murder of Dr. Martin Luther
[1:29:28.680 --> 1:29:35.080]  King and again folks, love Dr. King, hate him, the point is this is a black op, this is the
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[1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:11.880]  The men that killed Martin Luther King, JFK, Bobby, they told the Army commandos and the
[1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:17.040]  hired hitmen that were doing it, the FBI officers that were carrying it out, the agents, that
[1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:20.800]  it was all for the good of the country.
[1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:22.240]  But now look what they've done to the country.
[1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:32.880]  The very same sons and daughters, the same crew, is anti-free market, anti-liberty.
[1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:36.040]  And we are at the crossroads, ladies and gentlemen, we're either going to get out of this tyranny
[1:33:36.040 --> 1:33:38.480]  or go deeply into it.
[1:33:38.480 --> 1:33:40.120]  We can't stand still.
[1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:45.800]  There is no sitting on the sideline, there is no sitting on the bench, infowars.com,
[1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:50.200]  prisonplanet.com are the websites, we're going to have the info wars, Money Bomb coming
[1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:55.040]  up Saturday, I'll do a special live show, 8 to midnight, here, got some special guests
[1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:56.040]  joining us.
[1:33:56.040 --> 1:34:02.040]  Dr. William Pepper is our guest of this book, came out in the hard back, now it's out in
[1:34:02.040 --> 1:34:09.400]  paperback and we'll tell you more about that dealing with the murder of MLK before he leaves
[1:34:09.400 --> 1:34:10.400]  us.
[1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:14.160]  But right now we're getting into MLK, then we'll get into Bobby's murder and then he's
[1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:18.760]  also, by the way, friends with Hugo Chavez and has a book coming out about his conversations
[1:34:18.760 --> 1:34:19.760]  with him.
[1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:23.680]  So we'll get his take on Hugo Chavez, really is, there's a lot of questions about that
[1:34:23.680 --> 1:34:27.240]  and we'll get his perspective before he leaves us for a few minutes, then when the book comes
[1:34:27.240 --> 1:34:30.400]  out soon, hopefully he'll come back for an hour then.
[1:34:30.400 --> 1:34:37.080]  Okay, sir, go ahead and continue with kind of a synopsis of what you cover in active
[1:34:37.080 --> 1:34:38.080]  state.
[1:34:38.080 --> 1:34:46.880]  Yeah, well it, as James's lawyer, we were frustrated in going through the court system
[1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:58.040]  and he seemed blocked, some media colleagues from England suggested to me that why don't
[1:34:58.040 --> 1:35:06.720]  we do a television trial, a mock trial unscripted but highly credible in order to put forward
[1:35:06.720 --> 1:35:12.280]  the evidence that we had of James's innocence and also, of course, allowing a prosecutor
[1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:13.880]  to convict him.
[1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:23.320]  So there was a television trial done in 1993 and it was produced by Thames Television of
[1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:29.720]  England who eventually put out a business by Thatcher and HBO in the United States and
[1:35:29.720 --> 1:35:35.320]  it ran in England and in the United States for four hours on the 25th anniversary of
[1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:47.520]  Martin's assassination on April 4th, 1993, took the jury seven and a half hours to find
[1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:54.440]  James O. Ray not guilty, it was a jury chosen at random but with regular objections from
[1:35:54.440 --> 1:35:55.800]  all over the country.
[1:35:55.800 --> 1:36:01.280]  The judge was a former federal judge and the prosecutor was Hickman Ewing who had been
[1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:06.920]  U.S. attorney in Memphis and who was quick to remind me that he had won 200 straight
[1:36:06.920 --> 1:36:10.920]  criminal convictions as we prepared to go to trial.
[1:36:10.920 --> 1:36:16.160]  I thought Hickman was going to have a heart attack when the jury came back and he saw
[1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:21.640]  for the first time on film, he saw the jury verdict of not guilty, that was kept from
[1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:24.880]  everyone at the time.
[1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:31.560]  So that opened the floodgates, people started coming forward with information that never
[1:36:31.560 --> 1:36:39.760]  had before and the investigation took on a whole new life and the picture started to
[1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:42.240]  become increasingly clear.
[1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:47.800]  There was a Memphis commercial appeal article by a fellow called Steve Tompkins, former
[1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:54.240]  naval intelligence officer who had done an investigative piece on the involvement of
[1:36:54.240 --> 1:37:02.120]  the military intelligence in surveilling black Americans going back to Martin King's father,
[1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:06.800]  mother, and in the early 20th century.
[1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:12.040]  And in that long piece, there was a tiny little paragraph which said there was an eight-man
[1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:20.240]  sniper unit in Memphis on the day of King's assassination, an Alpha 184 unit, and no one
[1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:24.400]  ever explained what they were doing there because sniper units are not used to suppress
[1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:31.760]  riots or rebellions, they are rather there to kill their function.
[1:37:31.760 --> 1:37:35.920]  But there was just that one tiny reference that Steve put in that piece and so I went
[1:37:35.920 --> 1:37:42.280]  to him and badgered him and he did want to have anything to do with going back and talking
[1:37:42.280 --> 1:37:45.960]  to those guys, two of them had fled the country, they're afraid they were going to be cleaned
[1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:48.680]  up, so they went to Mexico.
[1:37:48.680 --> 1:37:50.400]  Only I convinced him.
[1:37:50.400 --> 1:37:53.560]  Remember we've got an audience of men, I know these terms, that means there's a practice
[1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:58.680]  to generally kill assassins later and especially if there's an investigation.
[1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:00.240]  Yes, that's right.
[1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:06.560]  So these two of these guys had fled.
[1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:11.600]  For a year and a half Steve carried messages and questions to them.
[1:38:11.600 --> 1:38:16.840]  He went to Mexico, they had trusted him, they would not meet with me because I was James
[1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:22.160]  Orray's lawyer, but they would meet with him and they knew, they agreed to answer the questions
[1:38:22.160 --> 1:38:26.840]  and so slowly they put together a picture of what they knew.
[1:38:26.840 --> 1:38:31.720]  They were a backup unit, they didn't know that at the time, they were a backup unit,
[1:38:31.720 --> 1:38:38.800]  and they came from Camp Shelby and Mississippi and what happened was they were briefed at
[1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:43.800]  4.30 in the morning, they were shown two photographs, one of King and one of Young, Andrew Young
[1:38:43.800 --> 1:38:48.960]  and who was the second target that people don't know, in fact Andy was shocked when I revealed
[1:38:48.960 --> 1:38:50.280]  that to him.
[1:38:50.280 --> 1:38:54.400]  And they then drove into Memphis and they took up their appointed positions.
[1:38:54.400 --> 1:39:00.520]  There were two sniper units with two spotters, two snipers prepared, but ordered not to fire
[1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:02.920]  until they were given the order.
[1:39:02.920 --> 1:39:08.440]  And what they didn't know was that there was a civilian hit operation that had been developed
[1:39:08.440 --> 1:39:14.520]  and there was a sniper on the ground in the bushes behind a place called Jim's Grill which
[1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:17.040]  backed on to the Lorraine Motel.
[1:39:17.040 --> 1:39:20.000]  And by the way, for those that don't know, studying many other cases you learn, they
[1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:26.240]  always have overlapping, not just for redundancy and backup and fail-safe, but also so if there's
[1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:31.240]  an investigation, it gets confusing and the average simple mind goes, why would they have
[1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:35.280]  a whole bunch of different hit teams, and you know, like JFK, then it turns into, was
[1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:42.320]  it Mafia, was it Pentagon, was it FBI, was it Dallas police, was it Cubans?
[1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:44.000]  Well, that's how intelligence works.
[1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:45.000]  They use everybody.
[1:39:45.000 --> 1:39:46.000]  Yeah.
[1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:47.000]  Yeah.
[1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:54.240]  And so Martin was shot, James was manipulated into, he was profile that allowed to escape
[1:39:54.240 --> 1:40:02.560]  from prison almost a year before the assassination, kept under control, handled by a guy called
[1:40:02.560 --> 1:40:04.560]  Raul who gave him money.
[1:40:04.560 --> 1:40:10.960]  James wanted desperately to leave North America and get out of the country, and he was approached
[1:40:10.960 --> 1:40:17.560]  by this guy at one point in a bar in Montreal, and convinced that he would get travel papers,
[1:40:17.560 --> 1:40:21.160]  but he had to hang on, do some jobs for this guy.
[1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:25.520]  Guy would give him money, fellow called Raul would give him money, and so he ran James
[1:40:25.520 --> 1:40:30.160]  around the country, kept him under control, kept him in Los Angeles for a long time.
[1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:35.840]  And Martin was to have been head in Los Angeles, that was the original target city.
[1:40:35.840 --> 1:40:40.960]  They're much more comfortable in some cities than in others because of the degree of intelligence
[1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:42.720]  involvement with the local police.
[1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:47.200]  And from what I know, New York and LA, but LA really first SWAT teams developed, Darryl
[1:40:47.200 --> 1:40:52.480]  Gates has been a CIA police force, really, I've been told by sources they were the first.
[1:40:52.480 --> 1:40:53.480]  Yeah.
[1:40:53.480 --> 1:40:58.040]  Yeah, I think that may be right, they're certainly very well embedded there.
[1:40:58.040 --> 1:41:07.080]  But the snipers indicated that at the last minute, the city was, the place was changed,
[1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:14.920]  and Memphis was chosen, and of course then James was moved into the South, into New Orleans
[1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:19.840]  and Birmingham, where he was told to buy a gun, and then they brought him into Memphis
[1:41:19.840 --> 1:41:26.880]  and he was told to rent a room, which he did, and then he was told to get lost because they
[1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:34.120]  used the room as a staging ground, and James was kept out of it for the duration of the
[1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:36.520]  afternoon as they prepared.
[1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:45.840]  So anyway, Martin was shot at 6.01 as he stood on the balcony, getting ready to go have dinner
[1:41:45.840 --> 1:41:51.680]  with a local preacher, and that's a whole other story who that local preacher is because
[1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:53.800]  he's lied over the years about many things.
[1:41:53.800 --> 1:41:57.160]  But anyway, they took him down.
[1:41:57.160 --> 1:42:02.240]  There were a group of local Black Panther activists who were working with him to develop
[1:42:02.240 --> 1:42:03.240]  the march.
[1:42:03.240 --> 1:42:08.640]  They were told to get out at about a 20 to 6, about 20 minutes before the killing.
[1:42:08.640 --> 1:42:11.760]  They were told to remove themselves.
[1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:15.120]  They couldn't understand why, because they had been working cooperatively and they were
[1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:17.920]  just told, well, let's see, I'll see, we're going to pay your bill anymore, you have to
[1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:18.920]  leave.
[1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:19.920]  So they just got discussed.
[1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:24.160]  Let's be clear, you're saying that there were operatives inside King's entourage.
[1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:25.160]  Oh, yeah, definitely.
[1:42:25.160 --> 1:42:27.360]  Can you spend a little time on that?
[1:42:27.360 --> 1:42:33.600]  Well, it's a very interesting situation because when I interviewed each of the invaders, and
[1:42:33.600 --> 1:42:38.960]  they had the Black group, and they had two rooms there, and I interviewed them, of course,
[1:42:38.960 --> 1:42:43.800]  many years later, and they said they could understand why they were being told to leave.
[1:42:43.800 --> 1:42:49.880]  And when one of them asked the matron of the hotel, who came up to tell them to depart,
[1:42:49.880 --> 1:42:54.600]  who was it who gave the orders to leave, they said, well, it was Reverend Jackson.
[1:42:54.600 --> 1:42:59.040]  And they said, Jackson, they had nothing to do with Jesse Jackson.
[1:42:59.040 --> 1:43:03.520]  They had been working with Jose Williamson and others, but not Jackson.
[1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:07.680]  They couldn't understand why all of a sudden he had inserted himself into the situation
[1:43:07.680 --> 1:43:11.120]  requiring that they leave.
[1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:18.320]  And when Eric had told me, as he looked over her shoulder, he saw Jesse down in the parking
[1:43:18.320 --> 1:43:21.200]  lot looking at his watch.
[1:43:21.200 --> 1:43:23.800]  And anyway, they just left.
[1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:26.680]  Well, Jesse Jackson is a real piece of work, didn't he?
[1:43:26.680 --> 1:43:30.440]  And then they gave him all the media attention and made him the man, and he plays the race
[1:43:30.440 --> 1:43:32.120]  politics with them and divides.
[1:43:32.120 --> 1:43:33.120]  Exactly.
[1:43:33.120 --> 1:43:34.600]  He is really something else, isn't he?
[1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:35.600]  Yeah, he went up.
[1:43:35.600 --> 1:43:41.080]  I mean, Miss King didn't speak to him for about 20 years, I believe, because he went
[1:43:41.080 --> 1:43:48.200]  up and he put blood, Martin's blood, on a shirt that he then was able to use on the
[1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:52.520]  day show in Chicago the next morning as they spirited him out of there.
[1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:58.640]  You know, when I confronted Jesse with that, he just didn't remember anything about it.
[1:43:58.640 --> 1:44:02.800]  Do you think they told him to do that, or do you think he just thought of that little
[1:44:02.800 --> 1:44:05.200]  bit of theater himself?
[1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:09.560]  I have, you mean the blood and the blood today?
[1:44:09.560 --> 1:44:10.560]  I just don't know.
[1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:16.560]  I just don't know which way that fell, but it left a very, very bad feeling with a lot
[1:44:16.560 --> 1:44:24.960]  of people that he, you know, he developed and pushed himself that way, but the incident
[1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:29.720]  that's much more sinister is the removal of the invaders, because they were a loose cannon
[1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:30.720]  type of group.
[1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:37.200]  They were unpredictable, and they had to be taken out of there, as did one of the black
[1:44:37.200 --> 1:44:42.360]  surveillance detectives who was Surveiling King, who was primarily a community relations
[1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:43.360]  guy.
[1:44:43.360 --> 1:44:48.680]  They had him in, they had them removed him from the fire station, where they had the
[1:44:48.680 --> 1:44:53.640]  balcony under surveillance, and they removed two, the only two black firemen from the fire
[1:44:53.640 --> 1:44:56.880]  station were told not to report to work that day.
[1:44:56.880 --> 1:45:02.840]  So they set the stage very well for a sharpshooter, it was a sniper.
[1:45:02.840 --> 1:45:09.120]  Yeah, that's key evidence that you just mentioned that blacks in the government apparatus, anybody
[1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:13.440]  who'd be responding in emergency services, they were removed, that is a key piece of
[1:45:13.440 --> 1:45:14.440]  evidence, please continue.
[1:45:14.440 --> 1:45:20.440]  Yeah, they took them all out, they took them all away, they removed the police guard from
[1:45:20.440 --> 1:45:28.000]  the hotel and moved it up, stationed it up at the police station, at the fire station
[1:45:28.000 --> 1:45:30.480]  rather, just they had it out of the area.
[1:45:30.480 --> 1:45:37.600]  There was always a team of four black detectives who were protecting Martin King when he came
[1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:43.920]  to Memphis, that team was always in force, they were not, they were not called into duty
[1:45:43.920 --> 1:45:48.600]  that day, so he was left without those four black detectives as well.
[1:45:48.600 --> 1:45:56.800]  So you have, when you have a cumulative amount of these kinds of events, there are no coincidences.
[1:45:56.800 --> 1:46:05.440]  This is pretty clear, so there was a sharpshooter who lay in the bushes and alongside him was
[1:46:05.440 --> 1:46:12.040]  a fellow called Lloyd Jowers, who was there to take the rifle from him as soon as he fired
[1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:19.440]  the shot, which Jowers did, Jowers ran Jim's Grill, which was the place in the bottom floor
[1:46:19.440 --> 1:46:22.920]  of the rooming house, but backed onto the bushes.
[1:46:22.920 --> 1:46:30.760]  The Jowers took the gun, ran inside, broke it down in front of a woman who had been his
[1:46:30.760 --> 1:46:36.240]  mistress and who had also worked in the grill called Betty Spates, and it took Betty, my
[1:46:36.240 --> 1:46:45.240]  goodness, she finally told me the story in December of 1992, she kept it all those years
[1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:53.000]  for various reasons, fear possibly, and also because she had been a Jowers lover, didn't
[1:46:53.000 --> 1:46:59.560]  want to turn him in, so she told the story, others came forward, we really boxed Jowers
[1:46:59.560 --> 1:47:07.360]  in with his involvement and he finally broke, and that's how we began to get the picture
[1:47:07.360 --> 1:47:12.880]  of the local operation, which was planned in his grill, and he was given substantial
[1:47:12.880 --> 1:47:18.920]  money by a local mob guy called Frank Liberto, who was one of Marcello's guys.
[1:47:18.920 --> 1:47:25.720]  Marcello had taken a contract on King's life, not knowing about the military backup, but
[1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:32.840]  he had taken a contract and he used his local guys and their connection with the police
[1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:41.240]  to carry it out, so that was, Martin was felled by a single bullet, the guy who shot him
[1:47:41.240 --> 1:47:46.720]  went down over the wall, was picked up in a Memphis traffic police car, a block away
[1:47:46.720 --> 1:47:55.680]  and taken to safety, and the FBI's role in that case was to, as it is in many cases,
[1:47:55.680 --> 1:48:00.560]  many of these situations was to cover up, they weren't involved in the actual organizing
[1:48:00.560 --> 1:48:05.720]  of the killing, their job was to control the investigation, which they did, they controlled
[1:48:05.720 --> 1:48:12.160]  the investigation, and that managed to cover up that has persisted, I have to say Alex,
[1:48:12.160 --> 1:48:18.860]  it's persisted to this day, because the official story is still the one that it gets put forward
[1:48:18.860 --> 1:48:25.880]  all the time, there is a museum, a civil rights museum, that has James Earl Ray's throw down
[1:48:25.880 --> 1:48:31.080]  gun, which was never, was not the murder weapon, it was throw down gun, with his palm print
[1:48:31.080 --> 1:48:36.560]  on it so they could nail him, it has it in a big cabinet, so it's the murder weapon,
[1:48:36.560 --> 1:48:43.360]  and that museum is controlled by some of the people who have benefited from King's death,
[1:48:43.360 --> 1:48:50.680]  so it's a, the official story is still out there, the book you're talking about, the
[1:48:50.680 --> 1:48:55.280]  book you're talking about, Active State, has never been reviewed in America, and the book
[1:48:55.280 --> 1:49:00.960]  before it, orders to kill, never reviewed in America, there was a fringe review of Active
[1:49:00.960 --> 1:49:08.200]  State with a book of Dexter King's in the post, but it's never been reviewed, and mainstream
[1:49:08.200 --> 1:49:13.600]  corporate media, whether it's television, radio, or the print media, will not deal with
[1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:21.400]  this story, the Times, book editor Christopher Lehmann Haupt, was going to do a review of
[1:49:21.400 --> 1:49:29.080]  orders to kill in November of 1995, and he told the, one of the editors of the publisher
[1:49:29.080 --> 1:49:34.000]  that he was told to pull the review, first time in 25 years, he was ordered to pull
[1:49:34.000 --> 1:49:35.000]  a review.
[1:49:35.000 --> 1:49:42.640]  The church committee came out and proved that the CIA is in control of the major publishing
[1:49:42.640 --> 1:49:49.640]  industries, or can steer a lot of it, and they have key people in the media everywhere,
[1:49:49.640 --> 1:49:53.720]  and I've talked to a lot of big authors who've had, you know, New York Times bestsellers,
[1:49:53.720 --> 1:49:58.120]  who've been told, because their book is anti-establishment, it's not going to be published by a major
[1:49:58.120 --> 1:50:03.160]  publisher, and again, people who think this is a supposed free society need to understand
[1:50:03.160 --> 1:50:09.600]  that there's this larger program going on, and that these fables, these narratives, these
[1:50:09.600 --> 1:50:12.680]  dogmas continue, but the good news is, and I'll have to get your take on this briefly
[1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:16.120]  before we go to break, is that regardless of their attempt to cover up, I would say
[1:50:16.120 --> 1:50:19.960]  it's failed, I mean, they have major polls where 80 plus percent believe the government
[1:50:19.960 --> 1:50:25.200]  killed King, 90 plus percent believe they killed JFK, 90 percent believe they killed
[1:50:25.200 --> 1:50:26.440]  Bobby.
[1:50:26.440 --> 1:50:29.200]  What's your take on that, Mr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper?
[1:50:29.200 --> 1:50:35.000]  Well, I think, I think for, yes, I think you're right, I think for people closer to it, and
[1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:41.520]  at this point in time, we're all, you know, there is this enormous skepticism that's late
[1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:47.120]  and coming, but that is there with respect to people being suspicious of their stuff.
[1:50:47.120 --> 1:50:49.920]  Okay, stay there, gotta break, gotta break, I want to come back to her more about that,
[1:50:49.920 --> 1:50:51.920]  get into Bobby.
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[1:54:18.840 --> 1:54:23.800]  Secretly in every U.S. city, it's now declassified somewhat, but I knew about it more than a
[1:54:23.800 --> 1:54:24.800]  decade ago.
[1:54:24.800 --> 1:54:30.920]  It freaked me out when I found out that the military was training to break up our families,
[1:54:30.920 --> 1:54:36.120]  take our children, confiscate our firearms, and now they do open, quote, drills that
[1:54:36.120 --> 1:54:41.320]  go live and search our vehicles and take us to jail, and I'm going to be covering that
[1:54:41.320 --> 1:54:42.560]  coming up in the next hour.
[1:54:42.560 --> 1:54:48.360]  Dr. William Pepper is our guest, and Active State is his book now out on paperback about
[1:54:48.360 --> 1:54:50.520]  the murder of RFK.
[1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:54.680]  There's also a companion website, it's Martin Luther King, excuse me, we're about to talk
[1:54:54.680 --> 1:54:59.000]  about Bobby Kennedy in a minute.
[1:54:59.000 --> 1:55:04.160]  He, well, we'll just go over all that coming up.
[1:55:04.160 --> 1:55:07.560]  Finishing up with Martin Luther King, sir.
[1:55:07.560 --> 1:55:20.560]  Yes, well, the new evidence brought the King family in full flame into the case, and they
[1:55:20.560 --> 1:55:25.680]  called for a trial for James and supported that effort.
[1:55:25.680 --> 1:55:35.680]  A judge, Joe Brown, a very independent black judge in Memphis, decided that he was going
[1:55:35.680 --> 1:55:40.160]  to hear evidence and started moving in the direction, and just as he, in my view, was
[1:55:40.160 --> 1:55:46.880]  on the verge of giving a new trial for James, ordering a new trial for James, he was in
[1:55:46.880 --> 1:55:51.360]  the shadows, he was taken off the case, the Court of Criminal Court of Appeals removed
[1:55:51.360 --> 1:55:56.520]  him from the case, and that effectively ended that possibility.
[1:55:56.520 --> 1:56:01.120]  James died in 1998 of liver disease.
[1:56:01.120 --> 1:56:08.080]  I had arranged a liver transplant facility for him at the University of Pittsburgh Hospital
[1:56:08.080 --> 1:56:15.720]  and pleaded for the right, no cost to the state to take him there for that transplant
[1:56:15.720 --> 1:56:23.760]  and save his life, and was denied by the courts in Tennessee, which was a, they were effectively
[1:56:23.760 --> 1:56:27.040]  giving him a death sentence at that point in time.
[1:56:27.040 --> 1:56:36.880]  And so he died in 1998, in 1999, I counseled the King family to bring a lawsuit against
[1:56:36.880 --> 1:56:41.920]  Lloyd Jowers for the purpose of bringing out all of the evidence that we had developed
[1:56:41.920 --> 1:56:46.840]  over the previous quarter of a century, just about a quarter of a century.
[1:56:46.840 --> 1:56:54.800]  So the family sued Jowers, he had admitted to Dexter King and myself and then to Dexter
[1:56:54.800 --> 1:57:00.480]  and Andy, separate interviews, exactly how the killing went down.
[1:57:00.480 --> 1:57:04.720]  So we could bring an action against him, we got around the statute of limitations because
[1:57:04.720 --> 1:57:08.880]  it was new evidence that was never available before.
[1:57:08.880 --> 1:57:16.960]  And we sued him in the Civil Court in Memphis in 1999, I represented the King family against
[1:57:16.960 --> 1:57:23.280]  Lloyd Jowers and others, which included government agents, unnamed government agents.
[1:57:23.280 --> 1:57:32.920]  It took the jury, the trial went for 30 days, Alex, 4,000 pages of transcript and exhibits.
[1:57:32.920 --> 1:57:44.000]  It's an amazing history of the entire fascination of Martin King and how it went back, 70 witnesses
[1:57:44.000 --> 1:57:46.240]  laid out the whole operation.
[1:57:46.240 --> 1:57:53.800]  It was coordinated by the military, by the colonel in the 9-0-2nd military intelligence
[1:57:53.800 --> 1:57:58.400]  group in the bowels of the Pentagon, he coordinated everything.
[1:57:58.400 --> 1:58:04.680]  He had the working relationship with the mafia, he also brought psychological operation teams
[1:58:04.680 --> 1:58:09.120]  on the roof of the fire station to photograph everything that went on, they even actually
[1:58:09.120 --> 1:58:14.680]  shot the shooter as he was lowering his gun.
[1:58:14.680 --> 1:58:20.960]  He had military intelligence groups throughout, they had Army security agency, people recording
[1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:22.960]  everything, they had all of the rooms bugged.
[1:58:22.960 --> 1:58:27.240]  Stay there, we're going to come right back in 70 seconds Dr. Pepper.
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[1:59:44.480 --> 1:59:56.000]  Waging war on corruption, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
[1:59:56.000 --> 1:59:57.400]  Government cover-ups.
[1:59:57.400 --> 1:59:58.400]  You want answers?
[1:59:58.400 --> 2:00:00.600]  Well, so does he.
[2:00:00.600 --> 2:00:04.760]  He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
[2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:11.360]  And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
[2:00:11.360 --> 2:00:15.320]  It's not his official website, but he says he likes the work that the gentleman is doing.
[2:00:15.320 --> 2:00:22.360]  It's actofstate.org about his newest book, now out in paperback, Act of State, The Murder
[2:00:22.360 --> 2:00:23.360]  of Martin Luther King.
[2:00:23.360 --> 2:00:25.800]  I want to get into Bobby here in a minute and a little bit into Hugo Chavez.
[2:00:25.800 --> 2:00:28.000]  We've got this segment and part of the next.
[2:00:28.000 --> 2:00:30.600]  We really appreciate Dr. Pepper spending time with us.
[2:00:30.600 --> 2:00:32.600]  Okay, William, please continue.
[2:00:32.600 --> 2:00:37.960]  All right, well, just very quickly, it took the jury in the civil trial 59 minutes to
[2:00:37.960 --> 2:00:43.280]  find that Martin King was killed as a result of a conspiracy involving agents of the government
[2:00:43.280 --> 2:00:47.160]  of the United States, state of Tennessee and city of Memphis.
[2:00:47.160 --> 2:00:54.320]  70% liability went to those official government agents, and 30% liability went to Lloyd Jarvis.
[2:00:54.320 --> 2:01:03.760]  So that effectively brought the King case pretty much full circle in terms of what happened.
[2:01:03.760 --> 2:01:08.120]  There's so ongoing work that's going out that the third book on it that will come out in
[2:01:08.120 --> 2:01:15.000]  about a year that will just, all the new evidence just supports it, but it will give more detail
[2:01:15.000 --> 2:01:16.520]  as to what happened.
[2:01:16.520 --> 2:01:26.440]  But it was a sad, sad day that we had to reveal in detail the involvement of the government
[2:01:26.440 --> 2:01:27.440]  of the United States.
[2:01:27.440 --> 2:01:32.680]  What is it like to have trusted your government before and then to be, not even be an excited
[2:01:32.680 --> 2:01:36.840]  participant, but to have to look into it and then find out that this is the case?
[2:01:36.840 --> 2:01:40.720]  I mean, how did that change your worldview about how things really work?
[2:01:40.720 --> 2:01:48.400]  Well, of course, it made me terribly cynical in terms of electoral politics and of the
[2:01:48.400 --> 2:01:56.040]  possibility of changing this republic and of the present circumstances, and very much
[2:01:56.040 --> 2:02:02.080]  a Jeffersonian in terms of the belief that you need radical reconstruction of the political
[2:02:02.080 --> 2:02:07.880]  economic structure every 20 years in order to sweep it clean and to get rid of all the
[2:02:07.880 --> 2:02:13.200]  special interests that dominate every aspect of life.
[2:02:13.200 --> 2:02:18.560]  I'm certainly in the same boat as you, and sometimes I wish things weren't conspiracies
[2:02:18.560 --> 2:02:22.400]  or weren't corrupt or weren't bad, and I go investigate, and it's almost always worse
[2:02:22.400 --> 2:02:23.800]  than I thought, Doc.
[2:02:23.800 --> 2:02:26.120]  I mean, it's insane.
[2:02:26.120 --> 2:02:30.400]  Your take on 9-11 and how it's been used to turn us into a furtherance of a police
[2:02:30.400 --> 2:02:35.600]  state, 7 trillion looted, 4 trillion missing from the Pentagon, 3 trillion from the war,
[2:02:35.600 --> 2:02:37.160]  the pension fund's gone.
[2:02:37.160 --> 2:02:42.480]  I mean, they're now openly engaging in corruption that dwarfs anything previous.
[2:02:42.480 --> 2:02:45.440]  I wonder what the next wave's going to look like.
[2:02:45.440 --> 2:02:52.760]  Well, I think we're on the road to the end of democracy in this republic unless there's
[2:02:52.760 --> 2:03:01.480]  some drastic changes, and it could be with the economic downfall of this system that
[2:03:01.480 --> 2:03:06.200]  the forced reconstruction of the republic will finally come about because it's going
[2:03:06.200 --> 2:03:12.000]  to hit everybody and right in their living rooms in their kitchens, and the people at
[2:03:12.000 --> 2:03:18.720]  some point will have had too much, and we may then well see drastic reconstructivism.
[2:03:18.720 --> 2:03:19.720]  Well, I agree with you.
[2:03:19.720 --> 2:03:23.360]  I don't think the thugs out there and some of the authoritarians who like all this who
[2:03:23.360 --> 2:03:28.520]  are low level, do you understand it's liberty and free market and freedom, and we're not
[2:03:28.520 --> 2:03:32.960]  perfect but better than the other place that has given us all this, and this tyranny, this
[2:03:32.960 --> 2:03:40.000]  corporatocracy or crony capitalism that isn't real capitalism, I mean, it's like a cancer,
[2:03:40.000 --> 2:03:44.600]  and it's just growing, growing, growing, growing, and either they're going to totally
[2:03:44.600 --> 2:03:49.440]  take over or we're going to somehow use their collapse.
[2:03:49.440 --> 2:03:50.440]  I mean, I agree with you.
[2:03:50.440 --> 2:03:54.040]  I don't think they're in control, Dr. Pepper.
[2:03:54.040 --> 2:03:58.360]  Well, I think we're, no, they're not in control of this now.
[2:03:58.360 --> 2:04:02.360]  It's spiraling downward and it is out of control.
[2:04:02.360 --> 2:04:03.360]  No question.
[2:04:03.360 --> 2:04:09.640]  They're not, they may not, well, will not be able to salvage it, and it's questionable
[2:04:09.640 --> 2:04:16.080]  whether the type of reforms that happened during the New Deal era will ever be sufficient
[2:04:16.080 --> 2:04:18.200]  again to restore the system.
[2:04:18.200 --> 2:04:23.920]  Well, you and I could probably even argue about what form of system we like as far as
[2:04:23.920 --> 2:04:31.520]  large yes and the public treasury, but at the same time, we know that corporate fascism
[2:04:31.520 --> 2:04:37.720]  destroys freedom and wealth, and so we're no doubt in agreement against that system.
[2:04:37.720 --> 2:04:41.920]  Let's come back, briefly get into Bobby Kennedy and a little bit about Hugo Chavez, who you're
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[2:07:47.280 --> 2:08:01.400]  Big Brother. Mainstream media. Government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex
[2:08:01.400 --> 2:08:09.280]  Jones on the GCN Radio Network. And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
[2:08:09.280 --> 2:08:13.880]  Got Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth coming up the next hour. Got
[2:08:13.880 --> 2:08:18.160]  the fellow running the InfoWars, moneybomb.com, popping in here in about seven minutes when
[2:08:18.160 --> 2:08:24.640]  Dr. Pepper leaves us. And we'll also take some calls when Gage is on with us. I've got
[2:08:24.640 --> 2:08:29.800]  a bunch of other news we're going to be covering.
[2:08:29.800 --> 2:08:37.760]  Doc, getting into Bobby, I mean, I know that you mainly focused in on what happened with
[2:08:37.760 --> 2:08:42.480]  Martin Luther King. But now, looking at the Bobby Kennedy's assassination, we always had
[2:08:42.480 --> 2:08:46.880]  the coroner in L.A. saying they shot him from behind. And multiple times in the back, back
[2:08:46.880 --> 2:08:50.320]  of the head, it wasn't sir. And we always had witnesses. We always were told all these
[2:08:50.320 --> 2:08:55.200]  CIA guys were there. Now they release all this film footage, BBC, of them in the crowd
[2:08:55.200 --> 2:09:02.720]  and the witnesses and the guy working at the big spy plane base, you know, who shoots,
[2:09:02.720 --> 2:09:10.120]  who reportedly was the one, Mr. Caesar, that shot Bobby in the back. A, when did you wake
[2:09:10.120 --> 2:09:14.800]  up to this? B, why did they want Bobby dead and then a synopsis of how they did it?
[2:09:14.800 --> 2:09:22.280]  Well, I mean, they wanted Bobby dead because he was going to be President of the United
[2:09:22.280 --> 2:09:29.400]  States and he was going to reopen the investigation of his brother's assassination. Bobby was
[2:09:29.400 --> 2:09:35.600]  one of the original conspirators, conspiracy buffs. He believed that his brother was the
[2:09:35.600 --> 2:09:45.120]  victim of a conspiracy and he had never gotten satisfactory answers. And he, at one point,
[2:09:45.120 --> 2:09:51.840]  told a major magazine editor that, who was a friend of his, that he needed the White
[2:09:51.840 --> 2:09:56.800]  House in order to open this investigation and get to the bottom of it. So that was
[2:09:56.800 --> 2:10:01.040]  the part of it. But it went beyond that. He was going to cut the oil-depletion allowance
[2:10:01.040 --> 2:10:07.680]  as was his brother. That would take hundreds of millions of dollars over a period of years
[2:10:07.680 --> 2:10:16.440]  out of the pockets of the major oil companies. He was going to withdraw the troops from Vietnam
[2:10:16.440 --> 2:10:22.360]  and end that war once and for all, which he had become convinced was a mistake. That
[2:10:22.360 --> 2:10:30.120]  he was treading on all of the powerful toes. His position was going to the bottom line
[2:10:30.120 --> 2:10:39.480]  of the major corporations in America. So he had to be taken out. And I believe he probably
[2:10:39.480 --> 2:10:48.680]  knew that. In terms of the details, Tom the Gucci's medical examiner's report, as you
[2:10:48.680 --> 2:10:55.960]  correctly said, did indicate that Bob was killed with a bullet that hit, it fired less than
[2:10:55.960 --> 2:11:02.400]  an inch from behind his right ear. There were four other shots fired at him. Three other
[2:11:02.400 --> 2:11:07.440]  shots fired at him, four in total, all from the rear in that close range. One went through
[2:11:07.440 --> 2:11:13.560]  his shoulder pad, one lodged in the neck, and one went through the chest cavity, in
[2:11:13.560 --> 2:11:20.640]  addition to the one that hit him behind the ear. So there was no question, also in terms
[2:11:20.640 --> 2:11:27.760]  of the witnesses, about 19 witnesses all saw Sir Han never get closer, three to five feet
[2:11:27.760 --> 2:11:35.440]  from the front of Bob Kennedy. And his shooting arm was pinned to a steam table after he got
[2:11:35.440 --> 2:11:42.040]  off two shots. So he was just firing blindly. So the answer to your first question is, I
[2:11:42.040 --> 2:11:47.160]  mean, that's why they killed him. And you're right, he was shot from the rear, and you're
[2:11:47.160 --> 2:11:53.400]  right, there was a medical report, an autopsy report that indicated that right from the
[2:11:53.400 --> 2:11:59.480]  beginning. But you know, Alex, Bob Kennedy's fascination was never properly investigated.
[2:11:59.480 --> 2:12:06.720]  There was never a defense put forward for Sir Han. His lawyers put him guilty, and didn't
[2:12:06.720 --> 2:12:14.160]  even, in exchange for the plea, get a reduced sentence. It was incredible. They stipulated
[2:12:14.160 --> 2:12:20.080]  guilt, and then they argued over what the sentence should be, rather than having agreement
[2:12:20.080 --> 2:12:28.400]  on that. And Sir Han remembers virtually nothing about the critical times related to that assassination.
[2:12:28.400 --> 2:12:34.800]  It is all the indication that he was under hypnotic suggestion, that he was controlled,
[2:12:34.800 --> 2:12:43.480]  and that he was put on cue. And to this day, he has never been brought out of that hypnotism.
[2:12:43.480 --> 2:12:53.440]  So I think it's pretty clear that the defense just totally didn't do their job early on.
[2:12:53.440 --> 2:12:59.920]  Grant Cooper, the lead counsel, was subject to a pending indictment, a federal indictment.
[2:12:59.920 --> 2:13:04.880]  They had him, and he was going to do what he was required to do.
[2:13:04.880 --> 2:13:10.440]  Have you seen the new BBC? Sorry? Have you seen the new BBC documentary?
[2:13:10.440 --> 2:13:16.760]  I saw Shane O'Sullivan's work, and I talked to Shane at length about it. He's not satisfied
[2:13:16.760 --> 2:13:25.400]  me with it, and he's not now satisfied himself with respect to two of the CIA people he thought
[2:13:25.400 --> 2:13:30.600]  was there, but one he is quite convinced about. That was this fellow, Frank Morales, who has
[2:13:30.600 --> 2:13:34.840]  at various times indicated he was in Dallas, and he was also in...
[2:13:34.840 --> 2:13:39.000]  Yeah, well, I mean, we now have E. Howard Hunt's death-peck confession. By the way, I have
[2:13:39.000 --> 2:13:42.600]  video footage. It hasn't been seen yet. It's going to be in a film, not just the audio.
[2:13:42.600 --> 2:13:46.120]  In fact, I keep forgetting. We've got to get that out on YouTube. We've been authorized.
[2:13:46.120 --> 2:13:50.560]  It's dangerous to have that. Let's go ahead and get that out now. I don't have the staff.
[2:13:50.560 --> 2:13:56.040]  It's so crazy up here. I'm sitting here on top of a giant stick of dynamite. What do
[2:13:56.040 --> 2:13:59.080]  you think about E. Howard Hunt coming out and saying, yeah, I was there. Yeah, I ran
[2:13:59.080 --> 2:14:00.080]  the operation.
[2:14:00.080 --> 2:14:11.480]  Well, I mean, I'm not familiar with all the details of Hunt's statement, but he clearly
[2:14:11.480 --> 2:14:16.280]  was a guy very much involved in the mix of all of these things.
[2:14:16.280 --> 2:14:20.640]  Well, let me just let the feds know. It's enough to break in here or anything or do anything.
[2:14:20.640 --> 2:14:23.160]  You'll see it. We're so busy, but I'm going to go ahead and just have it put out. I keep
[2:14:23.160 --> 2:14:29.480]  meaning to. He just says the exact same thing. He said in the audio tape that's online and
[2:14:29.480 --> 2:14:34.200]  that you see in the Rolling Stone magazine, just that I was a bench warmer, cord mire,
[2:14:34.200 --> 2:14:41.200]  didn't like Kennedy, and so he hired the team. It wasn't going to be in Miami, but it was
[2:14:41.200 --> 2:14:47.840]  in Dallas. So I mean, he just, I mean, Dr. Pepper, have you heard that tape? No, I haven't.
[2:14:47.840 --> 2:14:53.120]  No, I haven't. Yeah. Well, I have the video of it too, right before his dad died. It's
[2:14:53.120 --> 2:14:57.320]  it's absolutely amazing. Yeah. And to tell you how busy I am and how crazy all my evidence
[2:14:57.320 --> 2:15:01.960]  is, that's like at the bottom of the stack in there with all the insanity we have. But
[2:15:01.960 --> 2:15:05.200]  no, I mean, it's E. Howard Hunt. And it's not that I would believe E. Howard Hunt, but
[2:15:05.200 --> 2:15:09.760]  we have everybody at Dallas sing and we have the Dallas Times, Harold Dallas morning news
[2:15:09.760 --> 2:15:14.480]  taking photos of him as the tramp. We know he ran Black Hawk murders, assassinations,
[2:15:14.480 --> 2:15:19.480]  overthrows all over the world. And so we always knew it was him doing it and that came out.
[2:15:19.480 --> 2:15:24.320]  And then he just admits it. I mean, it's it's incredible, but he he admits it. His son said
[2:15:24.320 --> 2:15:29.000]  because he's proud of it. It's interesting. Yeah. And you know, he joke around the table
[2:15:29.000 --> 2:15:34.440]  about I can't wait to get that little bastard Bobby, finish the job, get the little one.
[2:15:34.440 --> 2:15:37.400]  And then after he got killed, he was making jokes from the dinner table, but he wasn't
[2:15:37.400 --> 2:15:43.920]  part of killing Bobby. No, I he doesn't seem it doesn't seem as though it was, but you
[2:15:43.920 --> 2:15:50.240]  know, I've just begun on on the body. I've agreed to represent Sirhan. His lawyer died
[2:15:50.240 --> 2:15:55.560]  whom I knew and consulted with him over the years. And when that happened, then and they
[2:15:55.560 --> 2:16:01.560]  brought the file to me and the and that the new ballistic forensic evidence that Bob Joling
[2:16:01.560 --> 2:16:07.280]  and Phil von Prague have come out with that that clinched it for me. I don't know if you
[2:16:07.280 --> 2:16:10.840]  know how familiar you are with that. Yes. One of them is the head of the forensic society.
[2:16:10.840 --> 2:16:15.600]  We had them both on and yeah, no, I mean, it clearly two different guns. And when you
[2:16:15.600 --> 2:16:20.480]  got 20 something shots, which is more than double what his gun could shoot. Yeah. No,
[2:16:20.480 --> 2:16:24.400]  there's no, there's no, there's no question that from the ballistics from the forensic
[2:16:24.400 --> 2:16:31.160]  side that that Sirhan has been cleared of the murder of Bob Kennedy. Problem is they
[2:16:31.160 --> 2:16:34.400]  have five other charges of attempted murder against him, which should never have been
[2:16:34.400 --> 2:16:39.280]  allowed. And but to be clear, you're now going to represent him and try to get a new trial.
[2:16:39.280 --> 2:16:43.800]  Yes. Yes, we're going, we're going to be pressing for that. I must say we're we're
[2:16:43.800 --> 2:16:49.960]  running into running into obstruction already. I mixed blessing when I get involved in a
[2:16:49.960 --> 2:16:54.320]  case like this, because they then start to batten down the hatches and they make things
[2:16:54.320 --> 2:16:59.440]  ever more difficult. Now, Dr. Pepper, we're out of time. We're going to break in about
[2:16:59.440 --> 2:17:03.160]  two minutes and I've already held you over longer than you said, but just come back in
[2:17:03.160 --> 2:17:07.360]  a few months when your new book about Chavez is back, please. But in the minutes we've
[2:17:07.360 --> 2:17:13.240]  got left. So Hugo Chavez is for real, according to you. There's no question about it. He's
[2:17:13.240 --> 2:17:19.760]  a, he's a guy who's totally, totally committed to alleviating poverty in his country and
[2:17:19.760 --> 2:17:26.240]  dealing with 80% of the people who have impoverished. They've got 20,000 medical clinics and villages
[2:17:26.240 --> 2:17:31.280]  that have never before seen a doctor. They're pouring enormous sums of money into social
[2:17:31.280 --> 2:17:37.200]  programs. The education is free from cradle all the way to the grave through graduate
[2:17:37.200 --> 2:17:44.560]  school. It's, uh, he's, he's democratizing the country at the grassroots. Each of the
[2:17:44.560 --> 2:17:48.920]  local villages have their own councils. They have their own budgets. There's no doubt
[2:17:48.920 --> 2:17:52.920]  he's doing what communists have never done. He's a socialist. He's taking a big government
[2:17:52.920 --> 2:17:57.080]  land, breaking it up, giving it with the deeds to the people. I mean, I would even call
[2:17:57.080 --> 2:18:02.040]  it socialism. It's not socialism. He's made a mistake with that. I have to say, and I've
[2:18:02.040 --> 2:18:07.160]  told him this, he, what he's doing is not socialism because the state is not involved
[2:18:07.160 --> 2:18:13.520]  in, in, in running these operations. It's, it is more aptly called cooperativism because
[2:18:13.520 --> 2:18:19.240]  the dominant entity in this, in the country they are now is, is a cooperative entity.
[2:18:19.240 --> 2:18:24.360]  For example, a sugar factory is run by the workers and the investors in the management.
[2:18:24.360 --> 2:18:28.720]  They, they participate on the board. They run the operation together. The state does
[2:18:28.720 --> 2:18:33.880]  not run it. So he's, uh, he's, I'm afraid made a mistake by calling it socialism.
[2:18:33.880 --> 2:18:35.360]  When is your book coming out?
[2:18:35.360 --> 2:18:41.240]  Well, I mean, we're still finishing up. It'll, it'll probably Alex. It'll probably be about
[2:18:41.240 --> 2:18:43.120]  nine months to a year before it.
[2:18:43.120 --> 2:18:45.840]  We can't wait that long. Can I have you back in the next month? And then we'll have you
[2:18:45.840 --> 2:18:50.960]  back when the book comes out to talk about Hugo Chavez. I know you know him personally.
[2:18:50.960 --> 2:18:55.320]  He's attended one of your classes at Oxford and he's a big fan of you. And so, I mean,
[2:18:55.320 --> 2:18:58.880]  you really know him. Well, can I have you on so we can really, uh, you know, get William
[2:18:58.880 --> 2:19:01.040]  Pepper's take on Hugo Chavez?
[2:19:01.040 --> 2:19:06.680]  Yeah, sure. And I have, I have probably prevented his death on two occasions. I must tell you
[2:19:06.680 --> 2:19:09.080]  that. And two assassination attempts by the,
[2:19:09.080 --> 2:19:12.800]  Oh my gosh. Well, how soon? We don't want to wait. I can do it anytime. Can I, can I
[2:19:12.800 --> 2:19:16.080]  get my producer to call you back and like maybe set you up the next month?
[2:19:16.080 --> 2:19:18.560]  Yeah, we, we could try to set that up.
[2:19:18.560 --> 2:19:21.680]  Sure. Okay. I'm going to have, in fact, no time like the president, doctor, we're going
[2:19:21.680 --> 2:19:25.000]  to let you go now. I'm going to have Trey call you right now and let's look at your book
[2:19:25.000 --> 2:19:28.000]  and get you set up to come on about Hugo Chavez. Okay.
[2:19:28.000 --> 2:19:29.000]  Okay. Delighted.
[2:19:29.000 --> 2:19:34.720]  You bet. The book, ladies and gentlemen is, uh, active the state, active state and, uh,
[2:19:34.720 --> 2:19:38.640]  active state.org is a website. You can check out and find out more. Uh, thank you, Dr.
[2:19:38.640 --> 2:19:40.320]  William Pepper for coming on with us.
[2:19:40.320 --> 2:19:42.040]  Okay. My pleasure, Ellen.
[2:19:42.040 --> 2:19:43.040]  You bet.
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[2:23:56.000 --> 2:24:01.360]  Sundays 4-6 p.m. Look, William Pepper, I believe, means well, very intelligent, an incredible
[2:24:01.360 --> 2:24:09.480]  research. He is a very interesting person. I have a bad feeling about Hugo Chavez, I'll
[2:24:09.480 --> 2:24:13.720]  tell you that. I don't like some of the police state actions he's had in his own country.
[2:24:13.720 --> 2:24:17.920]  He quoted the name of the greater good. I don't believe in socialism, but he has done
[2:24:17.920 --> 2:24:21.920]  some things that aren't socialism. Because the communists and socialists always ends
[2:24:21.920 --> 2:24:25.640]  up with a tiny elite owning and running everything. He's actually gone out and taken government
[2:24:25.640 --> 2:24:30.680]  land and other stuff and broken it up and given it to people. And he really is helping
[2:24:30.680 --> 2:24:34.400]  the commoners and he is taking the oil profits and giving it to the people because it is
[2:24:34.400 --> 2:24:38.080]  a resource. I'm not for socialism. I'm for free market. But if you've got something
[2:24:38.080 --> 2:24:43.160]  that's the land and the quote state was claiming it owned it, that should be divested and handed
[2:24:43.160 --> 2:24:46.880]  to the people. Not like here where they give you a little bit of government funding and
[2:24:46.880 --> 2:24:50.320]  then tell you how to raise your kids or make you take shots or do all this. And I'm not
[2:24:50.320 --> 2:24:54.280]  for socialized healthcare because it won't work and you can't pay for it unless you
[2:24:54.280 --> 2:25:01.400]  got trillions in oil. B, it gives the government control to carry out their eugenics. I know
[2:25:01.400 --> 2:25:06.260]  though Chavez is not maintaining IMF oil bank money. He's not, he's said don't take the
[2:25:06.260 --> 2:25:13.080]  foreign shots. He's talked about everything we talk about and he is an enigma. So we're
[2:25:13.080 --> 2:25:18.000]  going to have William Pepper back on because he's very close to Chavez. So that's the
[2:25:18.000 --> 2:25:21.480]  problem with a guy like that. You could talk about 50 subjects of William Pepper. He's
[2:25:21.480 --> 2:25:29.320]  really old, very smart. He's been around forever. And so we try to explore things here. And
[2:25:29.320 --> 2:25:33.000]  we're going to get to the bottom of Hugo Chavez. He's going to come back on the next two weeks
[2:25:33.000 --> 2:25:36.080]  and that should be an interesting interview because he's writing the book, the authorized
[2:25:36.080 --> 2:25:42.680]  biography with Chavez and holy mackerel, that is going to be very interesting to kind of
[2:25:42.680 --> 2:25:47.400]  give you a behind the scenes nine months to a year before that comes out because Chavez
[2:25:47.400 --> 2:25:51.900]  is rocking the world. Chavez is sending shock waves across the planet. I think I know what's
[2:25:51.900 --> 2:25:54.840]  going on. You know what? I'm going to tell you what I think is going on with Chavez and
[2:25:54.840 --> 2:26:00.360]  I could be wrong. I'm dead on about most things because that's because I've had experience,
[2:26:00.360 --> 2:26:06.680]  history, time to analyze and study and go off the run documents. See, things in hindsight
[2:26:06.680 --> 2:26:13.760]  are very easy. But when you're trying to look at their global manipulations and characters
[2:26:13.760 --> 2:26:19.160]  and people, it's very hard to do it in the present. In the present, it's very hard. Years
[2:26:19.160 --> 2:26:25.160]  from now, we'll know. It's hard now. Okay. Now with ongoing like 30 year projects to
[2:26:25.160 --> 2:26:29.080]  bring us into martial law, I could tell exactly what's going on, exactly what they're doing
[2:26:29.080 --> 2:26:32.440]  because I've had their own documents, their own experiences. I've been to their events.
[2:26:32.440 --> 2:26:36.440]  I've analyzed hundreds of news articles, thousands of news articles. I understand their attack
[2:26:36.440 --> 2:26:41.840]  profile. So I understand their synthesis of fascism and socialism. And I know what they're
[2:26:41.840 --> 2:26:46.600]  pushing and you know what? Eric Nordstrom is a real trippie. He's been holding for 10
[2:26:46.600 --> 2:26:49.920]  minutes. I apologize to him. I want to, he's going to be with me for about an hour on air
[2:26:49.920 --> 2:26:55.480]  taking calls in the four hour show. We're going to do Sunday night, Saturday night, excuse
[2:26:55.480 --> 2:26:59.400]  me, I'll be back Sunday night too from eight to midnight. And it won't be on the Genesis
[2:26:59.400 --> 2:27:04.840]  network, won't be on emesis network. It will be only on my internet streams at info wars.com.
[2:27:04.840 --> 2:27:08.920]  But I know tens of thousands will tune in. We have a lot of special guests on that night.
[2:27:08.920 --> 2:27:11.440]  It's not just going to be money bomb, money bomb, money bomb, but about a third of the
[2:27:11.440 --> 2:27:13.960]  time we'll be talking about the money bomb. And we're talking about the money bomb right
[2:27:13.960 --> 2:27:19.520]  now. We've got about $70,000 that has been pledged. Frankly, we need a lot more than
[2:27:19.520 --> 2:27:24.560]  that folks. If I'm going to get a bigger office instead of the 2300 square foot warren, if
[2:27:24.560 --> 2:27:28.760]  I'm going to get better cameras, better computers, start a pilot show for dish network. That's
[2:27:28.760 --> 2:27:33.400]  how big things start. You know, I'll have to pay for that show folks. That's why we
[2:27:33.400 --> 2:27:38.080]  need the support. And I guarantee you, if Ron Paul was a good place to give money and
[2:27:38.080 --> 2:27:41.640]  look at them tens of millions, we woke up, even if he doesn't become president, we're
[2:27:41.640 --> 2:27:46.640]  not going to go away. We're a media institution. And so if you believe what we're doing, you
[2:27:46.640 --> 2:27:50.720]  should support us. Eric, how is the buildup towards the money bomb going?
[2:27:50.720 --> 2:27:55.760]  I think it's going pretty good. It's trickling in, but you know, we've got some good support
[2:27:55.760 --> 2:27:59.360]  and the people who have pledged they'll follow through. And I think we'll wind up getting
[2:27:59.360 --> 2:28:03.680]  more money than showing, of course. What has, I mean, you come up with the original idea
[2:28:03.680 --> 2:28:11.520]  and instituted it for the Ron Paul money bombs that then got picked up by others, like, like
[2:28:11.520 --> 2:28:15.040]  Trevor Lyman. I mean, what's your gut on this money bomb right now?
[2:28:15.040 --> 2:28:19.080]  Well, of course, that was just one of many who came up with roughly the same idea and
[2:28:19.080 --> 2:28:21.360]  put it out. And it was the teamwork that made it good.
[2:28:21.360 --> 2:28:26.800]  Yes. It wasn't one person, it wasn't one event. You know, each person that was involved was
[2:28:26.800 --> 2:28:28.920]  crucial. Well, this isn't about credit. It is about
[2:28:28.920 --> 2:28:32.800]  everybody. I'm just specifically saying who you are in this. You're the first guy to put
[2:28:32.800 --> 2:28:36.000]  your website up. You're the first guy to actually take the first step.
[2:28:36.000 --> 2:28:40.640]  Well, that's exactly what I mean is, you know, if you look at it this way, it takes a lot
[2:28:40.640 --> 2:28:44.320]  of people to get this thing happening. And it's not just the fever or it's not just
[2:28:44.320 --> 2:28:49.320]  the, uh, the like, you know, what people like, who people prefer that makes it happen. If
[2:28:49.320 --> 2:28:53.200]  you, if you look at this money bomb and if you look at your organization there and you
[2:28:53.200 --> 2:28:57.280]  look at it as a house and you've got other organizations out there also trying to put
[2:28:57.280 --> 2:29:00.880]  out the freedom movement information, no constitutional information. And if you represent
[2:29:00.880 --> 2:29:05.280]  these different organizations as different houses in a neighborhood, well, if you've
[2:29:05.280 --> 2:29:09.080]  got one house that's looking a little bit trashy and you've got one house, it's medium
[2:29:09.080 --> 2:29:13.400]  and you got one house that looks really nice, you know, everybody wants their house to equity
[2:29:13.400 --> 2:29:17.080]  to go up. What you want to do is you want to get everybody in the neighborhood to help
[2:29:17.080 --> 2:29:21.880]  each other make their landscaping look nice, help, help the neighbors out. That way your
[2:29:21.880 --> 2:29:26.880]  entire equity goes up for your house. So stay there, explain this on the other side. Eric
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[2:33:12.560 --> 2:33:18.560]  The idea of us giving, the idea of the liberty movement, the freedom movement supporting the
[2:33:18.560 --> 2:33:22.480]  different tip of the spears that are out there. And we're not the only spear, but we're the
[2:33:22.480 --> 2:33:32.200]  biggest spear. We're the most effective spear next to Ron Paul. And it is literally treasure
[2:33:32.200 --> 2:33:41.880]  for our war chest. What is a war chest? It's what funds the army. And I have never really
[2:33:41.880 --> 2:33:46.200]  asked for donations, but when Eric Nordstrom did this, it comes at a time when I was really
[2:33:46.200 --> 2:33:51.160]  trying to decide what I wanted to try to do. This is, even if $100,000 comes in, that'll
[2:33:51.160 --> 2:33:55.440]  be substantive. That'll help us. That'll help us get a lot done. But for the cost of the
[2:33:55.440 --> 2:34:00.600]  type of things we're doing, it's really not even that much. And I assure you, I'm giving
[2:34:00.600 --> 2:34:06.240]  my word, 100% of the donations that come in Saturday will go to the building cost, which
[2:34:06.240 --> 2:34:11.240]  we cram every square foot full of people taking action. We'll go to the electricity bill.
[2:34:11.240 --> 2:34:17.080]  We'll go to better cameras. We'll go to a bandwidth. We'll go directly to fighting the
[2:34:17.080 --> 2:34:22.760]  New World Order. You see, we can't be demoralized. We can't have the attitude that we can't win.
[2:34:22.760 --> 2:34:26.480]  People are waking up. The global system is collapsing. They're trying to bring in their
[2:34:26.480 --> 2:34:31.880]  New World Order through the controlled collapse. We have to use that against them like Judo
[2:34:31.880 --> 2:34:38.680]  and use their attack against them. And now is the time. And I can think of no better
[2:34:38.680 --> 2:34:44.080]  place, frankly, to donate to. So if you donate to the InfoWorks Money Bomb, it'll be part
[2:34:44.080 --> 2:34:48.320]  of that excitement, part of that day, part of that history, and it will go on if it's
[2:34:48.320 --> 2:34:54.280]  successful and that way the Money Bomb idea won't be extincted. We're also trying to not
[2:34:54.280 --> 2:34:59.840]  extinct the idea of the Money Bomb because if Ron Paul has a $6.7 million day and some
[2:34:59.840 --> 2:35:04.640]  $4 million day and a million dollar day and then a $800,000 day and then a $50,000 day
[2:35:04.640 --> 2:35:09.760]  and then it's coming, oh, the Ron Paul thing's over. No, it's not the idea. People are like,
[2:35:09.760 --> 2:35:15.400]  well, what did I give my money for? I heard ads all over the country, TV, radio, people
[2:35:15.400 --> 2:35:18.840]  woke up. They found out about Ron Paul. They found out about the Federal Reserve, the warbing
[2:35:18.840 --> 2:35:23.000]  of fraud that Bush isn't a real conservative that the Democrats are controlled. There's
[2:35:23.000 --> 2:35:27.520]  no, I mean, think tens of millions. They estimate there's like 25 million Ron Paul supporters
[2:35:27.520 --> 2:35:32.960]  now in the U.S. alone, tens of millions globally. They're now from inside trilateral commission
[2:35:32.960 --> 2:35:37.840]  confirmed. This is Jim Tucker. He doesn't make stuff up. They number one issue was the
[2:35:37.840 --> 2:35:42.600]  Liberty Movement, Ron Paul. Not that he was going to be president, but that now young
[2:35:42.600 --> 2:35:45.280]  people don't want to be communists. They don't want to be socialists. They don't want to
[2:35:45.280 --> 2:35:50.880]  be neocons. They don't want to be fascist. They want to be Liberty people. And so we
[2:35:50.880 --> 2:35:55.960]  go on. We don't go away. We've been here 13 years. God willing, we'll be here in 10 years.
[2:35:55.960 --> 2:36:00.560]  I'd love to beat the New World Order and literally go do something else. I got all kinds of films
[2:36:00.560 --> 2:36:04.560]  I want to make. Imagine if I'm full-time made films instead of making two or three films
[2:36:04.560 --> 2:36:09.160]  a year on top of everything else I did. I mean, frankly, I want to make a, I'm going
[2:36:09.160 --> 2:36:12.000]  to tell you I want to make films about that are nonfiction. I don't have time. It doesn't
[2:36:12.000 --> 2:36:19.600]  matter. I mean, that are fiction or documentary style. I think of fiction as stuff that isn't
[2:36:19.600 --> 2:36:24.960]  fighting the New World Order. I mean, reality-based, but that don't matter. You know, that doesn't
[2:36:24.960 --> 2:36:31.000]  matter. That I want to make things that are non-New World Related. I mean, I don't get
[2:36:31.000 --> 2:36:34.760]  sick of it. In fact, I'm overdriven, burning with desire to warn you about all the stuff
[2:36:34.760 --> 2:36:39.960]  I've got in front of me. I'm just babbling here. I mean, the bottom line, we need your
[2:36:39.960 --> 2:36:45.080]  support, infowars.com. A lot of mail is coming in. A lot of donations are coming in. We're
[2:36:45.080 --> 2:36:49.560]  going to tabulate that, add that. We need to do some planning with you, Eric. I know
[2:36:49.560 --> 2:36:52.640]  you're set up for the show or being set up for the show Saturday, the special four-hour
[2:36:52.640 --> 2:36:56.160]  show we're going to do. We need to be calling you every hour or two. You're going to have
[2:36:56.160 --> 2:37:00.880]  a graph on your website or my IT guy maybe is going to build a graph and we'll be able
[2:37:00.880 --> 2:37:05.160]  to enter the numbers into that and show people like that, you know, to see as the money goes
[2:37:05.160 --> 2:37:09.880]  up at least every hour or so. They're going to have a 1-800 line. They can call in here
[2:37:09.880 --> 2:37:13.200]  with credit card donations. We're going to have a credit card link, a PayPal link. The
[2:37:13.200 --> 2:37:18.800]  PayPal link is already up. I think already like $2,000 is coming outside the money bomb.
[2:37:18.800 --> 2:37:24.080]  That's pretty encouraging. Go ahead and make your points. Well, just a success for one
[2:37:24.080 --> 2:37:28.800]  is a success for all. You know, we got to be thinking of ourselves as the freedom movement
[2:37:28.800 --> 2:37:33.520]  as one team. If we start thinking of each separate tip of the spear, as you put it,
[2:37:33.520 --> 2:37:38.440]  as a separate team and we're all rooting for our own special football team, well, somebody's
[2:37:38.440 --> 2:37:42.280]  going to lose and that's the old divide and conquer mentality that they want us to fold
[2:37:42.280 --> 2:37:48.520]  up into. So we got to think of ourselves as a conglomerate push that we're all doing the
[2:37:48.520 --> 2:37:53.400]  same thing. We're all singing from the same sheet of music. And, you know, if one person
[2:37:53.400 --> 2:37:58.320]  can get up to the top, well, it just makes a road for everybody else to follow. It's
[2:37:58.320 --> 2:38:02.560]  just like lightning. Lightning is going to take the path of least resistance. And always
[2:38:02.560 --> 2:38:06.920]  after lightning comes the thunder. And the thunder is all the people waking up. So,
[2:38:06.920 --> 2:38:11.880]  you know, I highly recommend jumping on this thing because you want to invest in things
[2:38:11.880 --> 2:38:17.560]  that have the greatest chance for success. You throw money away on some other thing that
[2:38:17.560 --> 2:38:21.080]  doesn't have a great, uh, you know, chance of succeeding. Well, that's fine. If you,
[2:38:21.080 --> 2:38:23.800]  if you feel strongly about it, but that's a good way of putting it. I mean, I'm not
[2:38:23.800 --> 2:38:27.720]  saying, I mean, in an army, you're all in the same team. It's just that you've individually
[2:38:27.720 --> 2:38:31.800]  got spears. Exactly. And, and, and so what I'm saying is we're on the very tip of the
[2:38:31.800 --> 2:38:36.360]  spear. And, and, and so I always say support everybody, support other networks, support
[2:38:36.360 --> 2:38:42.320]  other people. I've always tried to be inclusive. Others aren't, but, but with the idea of liberty,
[2:38:42.320 --> 2:38:46.560]  that is what matters. The idea of moving forward and you're right. We need to make this money
[2:38:46.560 --> 2:38:51.880]  bomb a success so other people's money bombs can be a success. And, uh, I think I've proven
[2:38:51.880 --> 2:38:57.280]  myself that I'm a good pony, uh, to bet on in this race because I've had the biggest
[2:38:57.280 --> 2:39:01.560]  effect through my listeners, through that team out there. We've had the biggest success
[2:39:01.560 --> 2:39:05.840]  against the new world order of any other alternative media outlet out there. I mean, I think we've
[2:39:05.840 --> 2:39:11.040]  proven ourselves. So if they are betting on a pony to get media attention, to be effective,
[2:39:11.040 --> 2:39:15.400]  to win the race, because we're racing against the new order ponies, I think we're a good
[2:39:15.400 --> 2:39:16.880]  pony to bet on.
[2:39:16.880 --> 2:39:22.520]  I put out a press release to the Ron Paul campaign, 2008. And what it was was a request
[2:39:22.520 --> 2:39:30.320]  by me for them to purchase a 32nd commercial on the Alec Jones show, a 32nd commercial,
[2:39:30.320 --> 2:39:35.680]  and pay you $1 million for it, which is a ridiculous price for $1 million for a 32nd
[2:39:35.680 --> 2:39:39.560]  commercial. But the ideology behind it is they can't donate to your money bomb per
[2:39:39.560 --> 2:39:44.720]  say, but if they can spend a million dollars and buy 30 seconds worth of advertising, that
[2:39:44.720 --> 2:39:47.880]  gives a million dollars towards something that should and needs to succeed.
[2:39:47.880 --> 2:39:51.480]  Well, that's a good idea, but the enemies would have a heyday with that. I didn't know
[2:39:51.480 --> 2:39:53.880]  about that idea. Well, I bet they think I'm behind that.
[2:39:53.880 --> 2:39:58.200]  Well, no, the idea behind it, though, is it's not just 30 seconds. If they give a million
[2:39:58.200 --> 2:40:02.560]  dollars to something that is good, that will definitely have an impact. It's not 30 seconds
[2:40:02.560 --> 2:40:07.680]  they're purchasing. It's 24 hours a day, seven days a week commercial for constitutional
[2:40:07.680 --> 2:40:13.280]  liberty, conservative viewpoints and perspective, not just the Alec Jones viewpoints, but I'm
[2:40:13.280 --> 2:40:15.440]  sure you're going to have other guests on.
[2:40:15.440 --> 2:40:20.640]  And the other thing to think about is, I can't believe the levity, I can't think of the word,
[2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:26.080]  the people you have on your show, they're not just Joe Schmoes. These people were in
[2:40:26.080 --> 2:40:29.280]  the thick of government. They were in the thick of things going on. They're the movers
[2:40:29.280 --> 2:40:35.360]  and the shakers of yesteryear and today. These people don't necessarily come on the smaller
[2:40:35.360 --> 2:40:39.920]  radio stations or the smaller television channels, or they're not invited because their perspectives
[2:40:39.920 --> 2:40:46.480]  aren't wanted. So, you have a lot of people, who else has Willie Nelson talking about 911?
[2:40:46.480 --> 2:40:52.880]  Oh my God, you have everybody under the sun on and it's such an educational value, your
[2:40:52.880 --> 2:40:57.640]  show, whether you believe everything's going on, at least flip some switches and it makes
[2:40:57.640 --> 2:40:59.520]  you think, wow, maybe that could be.
[2:40:59.520 --> 2:41:03.240]  Well, we're able to get Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and all these other people
[2:41:03.240 --> 2:41:08.400]  on, mainly because, again, we spend the money to have a full-time producer and another part-time
[2:41:08.400 --> 2:41:13.960]  producer. Also, I've been around for 13 years, so a lot of big wigs have gotten to know who
[2:41:13.960 --> 2:41:18.960]  I am. It's kind of an exponential thing. Again, when you got something that's having breakthroughs,
[2:41:18.960 --> 2:41:25.360]  that's what people need to back. Again, ladies and gentlemen, my passion. I know people hear
[2:41:25.360 --> 2:41:31.360]  me on their local radio stations at 10 o'clock at night, 3 p.m., 3 a.m., 4 a.m., people know
[2:41:31.360 --> 2:41:37.080]  I work hard. I'm dedicated and this is the place where 100%, I don't know where else
[2:41:37.080 --> 2:41:43.040]  you can find that, too, where 100% of what you donate here will go directly into the
[2:41:43.040 --> 2:41:49.240]  fight. That is what this is all about, infowarsbunnybomb.com. When has my producer set you up for
[2:41:49.240 --> 2:41:52.280]  the four-hour marathon we're doing Saturday night?
[2:41:52.280 --> 2:41:57.840]  They called me. I got the time written down. I think it was 7 p.m. my time, or I'm sorry,
[2:41:57.840 --> 2:42:03.000]  it was like 5 a.m. my time, so I'll be getting some sleep early to wake up, but I'm good
[2:42:03.000 --> 2:42:04.000]  for it.
[2:42:04.000 --> 2:42:07.840]  This is our time's off. I'm going to be live from 8 p.m. to midnight central.
[2:42:07.840 --> 2:42:11.880]  Well, we'll figure it out after you. No biggie. I'll be there.
[2:42:11.880 --> 2:42:15.760]  Okay, fantastic. We're going to have some other folks popping in for that show that
[2:42:15.760 --> 2:42:23.760]  will just be on the internet streams at infowars.com, those specific streams. Eric Nordstrom, infowarsbunnybomb.com.
[2:42:23.760 --> 2:42:26.760]  I really appreciate you coming up with this idea. When did you come up with this idea?
[2:42:26.760 --> 2:42:32.240]  I'll make it so it was a couple weeks ago. Basically, another viewpoint of it is it's
[2:42:32.240 --> 2:42:37.640]  a battering ram trying to break open the gates of the media so that we can change the face
[2:42:37.640 --> 2:42:38.640]  of media.
[2:42:38.640 --> 2:42:46.240]  Well, I've always told people go out and support alternative media. If you believe in something,
[2:42:46.240 --> 2:42:50.240]  spend money on it, not just me. I mean, that's how we're going to change this is voting with
[2:42:50.240 --> 2:42:53.640]  our dollars. They've taken most of our voting machines away. I mean, we know we're going
[2:42:53.640 --> 2:42:57.640]  into tyranny. We better financially support the people that are putting it all on the
[2:42:57.640 --> 2:42:58.640]  line.
[2:42:58.640 --> 2:43:02.840]  The battering ram needs to go through the doors. If you've got 100 people sitting on
[2:43:02.840 --> 2:43:07.440]  the sidelines not helping to push that battering ram, that's not good. I really hope and pray
[2:43:07.440 --> 2:43:12.640]  that the people that are standing by watching the battering ram start to push.
[2:43:12.640 --> 2:43:19.560]  Absolutely, folks. You can pledge at infowarsbunnybomb.com. If you don't want to, just go to infowars.com
[2:43:19.560 --> 2:43:24.080]  and the big link on the main page. Donate by PayPal, credit card, or by calling us starting
[2:43:24.080 --> 2:43:27.600]  Friday at midnight when we go into Saturday morning. I'm going to have one or two people
[2:43:27.600 --> 2:43:30.600]  here overnight. Who knows how many calls we'll get. And then we're going to have a couple
[2:43:30.600 --> 2:43:33.480]  of people here during the day. And I'm going to be here during the day as well, trying
[2:43:33.480 --> 2:43:37.320]  to answer the phones. Then I'll be here live for four hours at night. Eric Nordstrom, I'll
[2:43:37.320 --> 2:43:38.320]  be on with this as well.
[2:43:38.320 --> 2:43:41.880]  Eric, thank you because, hey, regardless of what happens with this, and I think it's going
[2:43:41.880 --> 2:43:45.680]  to be a big success. And that's up to you, the listeners, to spread the word right now
[2:43:45.680 --> 2:43:49.280]  in these final few days. This is key. We've got articles that Kurt Nemo is going to write
[2:43:49.280 --> 2:43:53.520]  today, Paul Watson-Demarra, Steve Watson Saturday. They're each doing a story. We need to get
[2:43:53.520 --> 2:43:59.120]  those articles out. But it's about getting up. It's about taking action. It's about spreading
[2:43:59.120 --> 2:44:04.680]  the word. It's about mobilizing and not just laying down. Resistance is a victory. Eric
[2:44:04.680 --> 2:44:06.180]  Nordstrom, anything else?
[2:44:06.180 --> 2:44:10.360]  It doesn't matter if you write something online. It doesn't matter if you send money. It doesn't
[2:44:10.360 --> 2:44:13.360]  matter if you donate a piece of burnt toast. Do something.
[2:44:13.360 --> 2:44:15.360]  Absolutely. Thank you, Eric Nordstrom.
[2:44:15.360 --> 2:44:16.360]  Thank you, sir.
[2:44:16.360 --> 2:44:21.360]  You bet. And people online who may not give money, most of them want to hear about it,
[2:44:21.360 --> 2:44:27.080]  they'll come check out infowars.com. I mean, go to a blurb about some new story we've got,
[2:44:27.080 --> 2:44:31.000]  some information we've put out, and then have a link to it, you know, to our subpage about
[2:44:31.000 --> 2:44:34.480]  the money bombs. They can go there and find out more. I mean, whatever it takes to get
[2:44:34.480 --> 2:44:41.480]  people to spark their interest, it is the act of defiance, the act of resistance from
[2:44:41.480 --> 2:44:45.800]  which all of this flows.
[2:44:45.800 --> 2:44:49.160]  So many people never believe that we could expose the globalists for 9-11, or that we
[2:44:49.160 --> 2:44:53.920]  could expose the WMDs being a lie, or that we could expose the fact that the CIA was
[2:44:53.920 --> 2:45:01.520]  putting out fake al-Qaeda videos. But now it's all coming out. Well, I'd studied history,
[2:45:01.520 --> 2:45:05.340]  and I'd also experienced things in my own personal life. And I know that if you don't
[2:45:05.340 --> 2:45:09.560]  think you can do something, you can be assured it's not going to happen. But 9 times out
[2:45:09.560 --> 2:45:14.280]  of 10, if you believe in something and you take action, and it's somewhat attainable,
[2:45:14.280 --> 2:45:22.960]  you can get it done. And they've got us hoaxed, buffaloed into not resisting. I looked at
[2:45:22.960 --> 2:45:27.560]  the term buffaloed, and that goes back to how buffalo would just stand there and let
[2:45:27.560 --> 2:45:33.680]  you shoot them, basically. Deer in the headlights is kind of what buffaloed is. Con, manipulated,
[2:45:33.680 --> 2:45:38.200]  stampeded, murdered. Stop being buffaloed. I mean, stop deciding you're going to give
[2:45:38.200 --> 2:45:42.400]  up. Stop deciding you can't affect change. Stop deciding. I mean, I was kind of buffaloed
[2:45:42.400 --> 2:45:46.520]  into never asking for money or never really trying to raise capital. I mean, I used to
[2:45:46.520 --> 2:45:51.000]  sit there with advertisers coming in every day. This is three, four years ago wanting
[2:45:51.000 --> 2:45:57.280]  to advertise, and I would just say, no, I don't want to fill my show up with any advertising.
[2:45:57.280 --> 2:46:02.040]  I'll just sell my videos and I'll have two employees and I'll just do everything myself
[2:46:02.040 --> 2:46:06.640]  and I'll edit everything myself. And then I said, wait a minute, if I hire more people,
[2:46:06.640 --> 2:46:09.600]  then we can have better customer service. That was the main reason I started hiring
[2:46:09.600 --> 2:46:15.520]  more people. We didn't have the staff to even properly ship them out. And then I said, well,
[2:46:15.520 --> 2:46:20.080]  if I go ahead and just, you know, and I learned, man, I can hire more people and then that
[2:46:20.080 --> 2:46:23.640]  ends up bringing in more money and then I can hire more people and then I can continue
[2:46:23.640 --> 2:46:29.320]  to expand my operations and fight the new world order more effectively. And some other
[2:46:29.320 --> 2:46:35.560]  things happen too. I mean, a lot of what happened on this show is I've always been a really
[2:46:35.560 --> 2:46:40.160]  nice person, also aggressive at the same time, but a nice guy until you mess with me. And
[2:46:40.160 --> 2:46:43.120]  I remember one time, like eight years ago, I got a sponsor and a talk show has called
[2:46:43.120 --> 2:46:47.800]  me and said, I'm sponsoring something like that too. You shouldn't do that. And I said,
[2:46:47.800 --> 2:46:54.160]  okay, I won't take a sponsor. I mean, what kind of schmuck am I? But see, to me, it was
[2:46:54.160 --> 2:46:57.960]  well, I'll just sell these videos and have enough to live on and then we'll just be a
[2:46:57.960 --> 2:47:02.160]  small operation. And I realized other people aren't stepping up to the plate. I better
[2:47:02.160 --> 2:47:06.480]  do it. And then I got like four or five sponsors about two years ago and then people got mad
[2:47:06.480 --> 2:47:09.920]  about it. And I said, hey, I'm supposed to live too. How about I get a whole bunch of
[2:47:09.920 --> 2:47:14.080]  sponsors? How about I really try to hire more people and do more and get better websites
[2:47:14.080 --> 2:47:20.400]  and upgrade and have a better prisonplanet.tv? I mean, that's what this is all about is effectively
[2:47:20.400 --> 2:47:24.160]  waking people up. And if we're the best there is, if we're the best hope we've got, that
[2:47:24.160 --> 2:47:28.520]  is myself, this radio show, my crew and you, the listeners who are symbiotically integrated
[2:47:28.520 --> 2:47:32.560]  together in the fight against the new world order. If we're the best there is, we better.
[2:47:32.560 --> 2:47:35.760]  I mean, I realized, I mean, you think I want to take on trying to start a TV show and then
[2:47:35.760 --> 2:47:39.520]  a TV network. You think I want it because I don't take something on less. I'm going
[2:47:39.520 --> 2:47:43.680]  to do it. You think I want to take on a money bomb and have to have people here answering
[2:47:43.680 --> 2:47:47.240]  the phone and fiddling with it and people to attack me over it. At first I was like,
[2:47:47.240 --> 2:47:51.040]  oh no, when I heard about it, you know, I'm going to ask for money. I'll just beg for
[2:47:51.040 --> 2:47:55.280]  it on air. I know I see the attacks that are coming. But so what? You just got to step
[2:47:55.280 --> 2:47:59.760]  up to the plate because it's morally right to ask for money, to fuel something that's
[2:47:59.760 --> 2:48:03.240]  morally correct and doing the right thing. And I know I'm going to spend the money on
[2:48:03.240 --> 2:48:07.640]  the right thing. See, I'm not obsessed with money like other people. I'll go just buy
[2:48:07.640 --> 2:48:12.240]  those hidden cameras, just buy a laptop, just just buy it. I don't even care if I burned
[2:48:12.240 --> 2:48:16.720]  to the capital I've got because if it's for the weapon, if it's for the info war, it's
[2:48:16.720 --> 2:48:22.200]  what I exist for. It's what I'm for. It's what I'm about. I mean, in business, I'm sure
[2:48:22.200 --> 2:48:26.440]  you've all experienced this. Somebody owes you money. Most people try to not pay you.
[2:48:26.440 --> 2:48:31.280]  Well we just pay people because we're not obsessed with it. We don't, we don't try to hold on
[2:48:31.280 --> 2:48:36.920]  to something. I guess they say those are willing to lay down their life, gain their life and
[2:48:36.920 --> 2:48:41.360]  those that try to keep their life lose their life. It's the attitude of being a wimp brings
[2:48:41.360 --> 2:48:46.600]  the wolves. If you're some cowardly sheep, a nation of cowardly sheep that rationalize
[2:48:46.600 --> 2:48:52.480]  and make excuses about everything, tyranny is going to come down on you. But if you are
[2:48:52.480 --> 2:48:56.520]  a nation of people that are strong willed and have strong backbones and are aggressive
[2:48:56.520 --> 2:48:59.400]  and aren't easy targets, you're not going to live in tyranny. And then you're going
[2:48:59.400 --> 2:49:02.080]  to have milk and honey because you're going to have free individuals out, live in their
[2:49:02.080 --> 2:49:05.840]  own lives, go in their own direction. You're going to have free will and free choice and
[2:49:05.840 --> 2:49:10.640]  that is an explosive dynamo, which is just amazing. Our country's had limited freedom
[2:49:10.640 --> 2:49:14.560]  but the best there's been in history and we had half the world's wealth, four percent
[2:49:14.560 --> 2:49:20.280]  of the population, four percent of the population, half the wealth or more. Now we're losing
[2:49:20.280 --> 2:49:24.560]  all that wealth. We've gone in 50 years from being the greatest, most wealthy country in
[2:49:24.560 --> 2:49:30.200]  the world for the last hundred to being the most indebted, most bankrupt, dumbest, stupidest,
[2:49:30.200 --> 2:49:37.480]  most unhealthy, most know-it-all, most arrogant. I want that back. I want our liberty and freedom
[2:49:37.480 --> 2:49:41.720]  back. I want my progeny, my great, great grandchildren who I love as much as my children.
[2:49:41.720 --> 2:49:46.680]  I know they're going to exist. I have to have that vision and see through it as a male,
[2:49:46.680 --> 2:49:52.120]  as a leader, as a trailblazer. I have to put myself fully against the enemy. Doesn't mean
[2:49:52.120 --> 2:49:55.360]  I'm perfect. Doesn't mean I dropped the ball. Doesn't mean I make mistakes. Doesn't mean
[2:49:55.360 --> 2:50:00.680]  I'm not arrogant and a dumb bastard sometimes. But at the end of the day, I'm for real. And
[2:50:00.680 --> 2:50:05.120]  at the end of the day, I got a mission. And at the end of the day, my word is my word.
[2:50:05.120 --> 2:50:09.200]  At the end of the day, I'm the real McCoy, ladies and gentlemen. And I know you're the
[2:50:09.200 --> 2:50:12.560]  real McCoy, so stop whining about whether this guy's a good leader or that guy's a
[2:50:12.560 --> 2:50:16.920]  good leader. You know you're a leader, so start leading today. And I want a commitment
[2:50:16.920 --> 2:50:23.400]  from you. You don't have to give us money. You don't have to go give at info wars this
[2:50:23.400 --> 2:50:29.120]  Saturday. In fact, don't. But you start a newsletter next week. You start a website
[2:50:29.120 --> 2:50:34.080]  next week. You call into a talk radio show today. You start some reaching out. You go
[2:50:34.080 --> 2:50:37.760]  tell your neighbors about the New World Order tonight. Don't wait. You'll wait and your
[2:50:37.760 --> 2:50:43.360]  life will run by. All I want from you is that you take action. All I want from you is that
[2:50:43.360 --> 2:50:48.960]  you go up and tell a cop not to be a police state minion. Educate them. Interface. It
[2:50:48.960 --> 2:50:56.840]  is a big idea. A New World Order. In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful
[2:50:56.840 --> 2:51:03.720]  world government. It's known as the builder bird. Both their objective being world domination.
[2:51:03.720 --> 2:51:09.120]  For thousands of years, their dark order grew. Now as they hail the birth of the New World
[2:51:09.120 --> 2:51:17.720]  Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand. For the first
[2:51:17.720 --> 2:51:23.160]  time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open. You will learn
[2:51:23.160 --> 2:51:27.960]  the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda. Builders make great progress
[2:51:27.960 --> 2:51:31.200]  for the world government. Most people have no idea they're not after money. They have
[2:51:31.200 --> 2:51:36.200]  all the money they need. They're after power. That's their affidavit. Order in-game on DVD
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[2:54:01.160 --> 2:54:07.320]  You know what's admitted? The Intel Center came out yesterday and said, yeah, there's
[2:54:07.320 --> 2:54:13.400]  a new Al-Qaeda video out. It's fake. Trying to make themselves look like they're credible
[2:54:13.400 --> 2:54:17.880]  when they've been caught laying down the same video layer with their icon onto the Al-Qaeda
[2:54:17.880 --> 2:54:34.400]  icon. Red-handed, red-handed, red-handed, red-handed, red-handed, red-handed. But that's what they
[2:54:34.400 --> 2:54:41.040]  know how to feed us. There is some kooky looking nut. I saw like a month ago on local Denver
[2:54:41.040 --> 2:54:46.960]  News going, I will soon release proof of the aliens landing. We need to prepare Denver
[2:54:46.960 --> 2:54:52.480]  for them to land. I'm not saying there aren't aliens in space, but the point is, I don't
[2:54:52.480 --> 2:54:56.640]  cover that because I can't prove it. This guy, it's going to be some computer-generated
[2:54:56.640 --> 2:55:00.920]  hoax or some government deal because you've got the Pope saying they're real and worship
[2:55:00.920 --> 2:55:06.520]  them basically. You've got all these governments coming out and saying it's real. I'm seeing
[2:55:06.520 --> 2:55:10.720]  a lot. You've got all these government aircraft flying around Dallas, outside Dallas freaking
[2:55:10.720 --> 2:55:16.320]  everybody out. Then now, national Fox News, tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen. On the word
[2:55:16.320 --> 2:55:22.640]  of this guy, they're giving him all this attention. They're going to show us aliens. I remember
[2:55:22.640 --> 2:55:28.600]  some kook in Texas, in Austin, who I knew, who got up on his high-rise apartment, he
[2:55:28.600 --> 2:55:34.440]  later admitted it to me, was dropping pennies off and videotaping them falling past and
[2:55:34.440 --> 2:55:41.480]  saying it was flying saucers. But again, this is the American people. They think Al-Qaeda
[2:55:41.480 --> 2:55:46.840]  is Shiite Iranians. Meanwhile, our criminal government runs Al-Qaeda, attacking the Iranians
[2:55:46.840 --> 2:55:52.600]  and admitting it while saying they're Al-Qaeda. Why not tell them it's space aliens? I ought
[2:55:52.600 --> 2:55:58.520]  to get like a plush doll of alien gray and have it dance around on strings and say, look,
[2:55:58.520 --> 2:56:03.120]  proof. Let's go to the store and buy one. We could film it in five minutes to get major
[2:56:03.120 --> 2:56:07.400]  news. Fox News would ask you if the plush doll was real. We just got to have the strings
[2:56:07.400 --> 2:56:11.880]  the same color as the blue screen or the green screen, and it'll be a little plush doll
[2:56:11.880 --> 2:56:19.040]  going, I am here from Quagglesnack, from the deep space nebula of Plute Plot. I come to
[2:56:19.040 --> 2:56:24.880]  suck your brain out. Okay, I'm just going to have Richard Gage off for 30 minutes, I
[2:56:24.880 --> 2:56:29.880]  think, because I got all this news and I want to cover it all. And I told Eddie to set up
[2:56:29.880 --> 2:56:35.960]  Richard Gage, and I like Richard, but I've got to somehow cover all this news, but it
[2:56:35.960 --> 2:56:39.640]  gets exhausting actually covering it all and trying to cover every facet. What I'm going
[2:56:39.640 --> 2:56:42.640]  to do is for five minutes, I'm going to cover some top stories when we get back in about
[2:56:42.640 --> 2:56:47.360]  a minute. And then we're going to hear Richard Gage on, and we'll just enjoy a nice discussion
[2:56:47.360 --> 2:56:50.880]  with him about what's developed with architects and engineers of 9-11 Truth, not even the
[2:56:50.880 --> 2:56:56.400]  science, now they blew it up. We all know that. But the congressional hearing showing
[2:56:56.400 --> 2:57:00.040]  his organization and saying they're going to blow everything up with Al-Qaeda, and we've
[2:57:00.040 --> 2:57:05.920]  got to restrict free speech of the evil Richard Gage, things like that. Before I do that,
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[2:59:43.360 --> 2:59:46.360]  Alex Jones on the GCM Radio Network.
[2:59:46.360 --> 3:00:06.360]  We're now into the fourth hour ladies and gentlemen here Monday through Friday from 11 a.m.
[3:00:06.360 --> 3:00:08.360]  at 3 p.m. Central Standard Time.
[3:00:08.360 --> 3:00:11.360]  Sundays at 4 to 6 p.m. Central Standard Time.
[3:00:11.360 --> 3:00:19.360]  I'm doing a special Saturday show coming up this weekend from 4 to 5 p.m.
[3:00:19.360 --> 3:00:24.360]  I'm thinking about doing a special one hour show but definitely I'll be live from 8 to midnight.
[3:00:24.360 --> 3:00:29.360]  I've been thinking about doing one in the middle of the day but I'm not sure but definitely live 8 to midnight.
[3:00:29.360 --> 3:00:32.360]  I may even do a morning one but who knows what's going to happen.
[3:00:32.360 --> 3:00:34.360]  We'll definitely be there during that time for you.
[3:00:34.360 --> 3:00:38.360]  Richard Gage is coming up Architects and Engineers 9-11 Truth.
[3:00:38.360 --> 3:00:43.360]  I'm just going to be covering some of the basic science of how the globalist blew the buildings up in Building 7
[3:00:43.360 --> 3:00:46.360]  but the police state they've set up afterward.
[3:00:46.360 --> 3:00:53.360]  The sagas, the tribulations Richard Gage has been through that is coming up.
[3:00:53.360 --> 3:00:58.360]  Some of the news that I have here in front of me and I'm going to do this at the end of the show today
[3:00:58.360 --> 3:01:00.360]  because I promise to do this.
[3:01:00.360 --> 3:01:02.360]  We're going to take some time out to cover it.
[3:01:02.360 --> 3:01:13.360]  We're bringing combat training to Indy and it says US Marine helicopters will land at the old Eastgate Consumer Mall,
[3:01:13.360 --> 3:01:20.360]  Brookside Park and other Indianapolis locations and then down here it says we don't want anybody thinking
[3:01:20.360 --> 3:01:24.360]  there's an invasion happening or we've declared martial law or something like that
[3:01:24.360 --> 3:01:28.360]  though that's in all the government documents and in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act
[3:01:28.360 --> 3:01:33.360]  and in my film Road to Tyranny I interview Marine commanders who said they trained in the 80s
[3:01:33.360 --> 3:01:39.360]  and actually raided US citizens homes and they've already fully integrated in for martial law.
[3:01:39.360 --> 3:01:44.360]  It says the Marines will practice firing weapons, conducting patrols, running a vehicle checkpoints
[3:01:44.360 --> 3:01:45.360]  and then they run real ones.
[3:01:45.360 --> 3:01:48.360]  They will come up to real citizens with the police, they'll initiate it,
[3:01:48.360 --> 3:01:53.360]  then troops, about training the troops to engage the American people, totally illegal.
[3:01:53.360 --> 3:01:59.360]  It says vehicle checkpoints, reacting to ambushes and employing non-lethal weapons according to a statement.
[3:01:59.360 --> 3:02:01.360]  That means they're going to have role players out there screaming,
[3:02:01.360 --> 3:02:03.360]  I'm an American, oh no, not the camp.
[3:02:03.360 --> 3:02:06.360]  And since we're doing, this is the last 15 minutes of the show,
[3:02:06.360 --> 3:02:09.360]  I'll be able to play a clip from Road to Tyranny.
[3:02:09.360 --> 3:02:11.360]  I was going to play it off YouTube.
[3:02:11.360 --> 3:02:12.360]  Why do that?
[3:02:12.360 --> 3:02:14.360]  Why not the DVDs in there?
[3:02:14.360 --> 3:02:17.360]  And we'll just cue that up to that point.
[3:02:17.360 --> 3:02:18.360]  It's like two hours in.
[3:02:18.360 --> 3:02:20.360]  It's a two hour, 40 minute film.
[3:02:20.360 --> 3:02:24.360]  And we'll just play that on air for everybody from here and comment on it.
[3:02:24.360 --> 3:02:28.360]  So that is coming up, the most important news.
[3:02:28.360 --> 3:02:34.360]  I want to get the Czech president, Klaus on.
[3:02:34.360 --> 3:02:37.360]  I thought of that this morning, tell my producers I'll just do that on air.
[3:02:37.360 --> 3:02:40.360]  All the other shows can try to compete with us and try to get them before we do.
[3:02:40.360 --> 3:02:42.360]  And I'll be just as happy if you do get him, by the way.
[3:02:42.360 --> 3:02:46.360]  Try to make you not be a bunch of lazy sloths out there to actually get some good guests.
[3:02:46.360 --> 3:02:50.360]  So I always throw out who I'm going to have on to give you a, you know, kind of a head start.
[3:02:50.360 --> 3:02:53.360]  Because all I care about is fighting the new old order.
[3:02:53.360 --> 3:02:55.360]  I hope you get Klaus on.
[3:02:55.360 --> 3:02:57.360]  I haven't tried yet.
[3:02:57.360 --> 3:03:01.360]  I want the Czech president.
[3:03:01.360 --> 3:03:05.360]  In fact, I want everybody listening in Czechoslovakia to call his office and tell him we're good.
[3:03:05.360 --> 3:03:08.360]  We agree with him and we want him on.
[3:03:08.360 --> 3:03:10.360]  It's amazing what he's come out and said.
[3:03:10.360 --> 3:03:15.360]  He says environmentalism, he's not really about taking care of the environment.
[3:03:15.360 --> 3:03:18.360]  I don't mean what the well-meaning general public believes it is.
[3:03:18.360 --> 3:03:19.360]  And that's what he says.
[3:03:19.360 --> 3:03:25.360]  But for the elite, it is world government, total control, a form of tyranny.
[3:03:25.360 --> 3:03:31.360]  Czech president Klaus said today he is ready to debate Al Gore about global warming.
[3:03:31.360 --> 3:03:39.360]  And he, as he presented the English version of his latest book that argues environmentalism poses a threat to basic human freedoms.
[3:03:39.360 --> 3:03:47.360]  I many times tried to talk to the public exchange of views with him and he's not too much willing to make such a conversation.
[3:03:47.360 --> 3:03:49.360]  Klaus said, so I'm ready to do it.
[3:03:49.360 --> 3:03:56.360]  Klaus was speaking at the National Press Building in Washington to present his new book, Blue Planet in Green Shackles.
[3:03:56.360 --> 3:03:57.360]  And that's it.
[3:03:57.360 --> 3:04:02.360]  Total police control, total prison for everybody, total carbon footprint, global tax.
[3:04:02.360 --> 3:04:05.360]  You got to swipe your card, everything you buy being tracked.
[3:04:05.360 --> 3:04:10.360]  I mean, we got somebody coming on next week in Britain about to have that passed.
[3:04:10.360 --> 3:04:11.360]  Kind of guess we're bringing you.
[3:04:11.360 --> 3:04:14.360]  And then I tell the neocon listeners this and they go, that ain't true.
[3:04:14.360 --> 3:04:16.360]  That's not going to happen.
[3:04:16.360 --> 3:04:18.360]  Oh, I just read it in UN official meetings.
[3:04:18.360 --> 3:04:21.360]  They're not even secret in 2000.
[3:04:21.360 --> 3:04:23.360]  Everything I say comes true.
[3:04:23.360 --> 3:04:24.360]  All of it.
[3:04:24.360 --> 3:04:25.360]  Why?
[3:04:25.360 --> 3:04:26.360]  I'm reading official policy reports.
[3:04:26.360 --> 3:04:31.360]  In 96, they said the NSA was taking over the phone companies, entire floors.
[3:04:31.360 --> 3:04:33.360]  Everything's wired through them.
[3:04:33.360 --> 3:04:37.360]  Of course, then it came out later that whole floors of all the phone companies are NSA.
[3:04:37.360 --> 3:04:41.360]  It was admitted in the Telecommunications Act like everything else.
[3:04:45.360 --> 3:04:49.360]  It is a big idea, a new world order.
[3:04:49.360 --> 3:04:54.360]  In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
[3:04:54.360 --> 3:04:57.360]  It's known as the Bilderberg.
[3:04:57.360 --> 3:05:00.360]  Could their objective be world domination?
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[3:07:46.360 --> 3:07:53.360]  From his Central Texas Command Center deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
[3:07:53.360 --> 3:08:01.360]  It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
[3:08:01.360 --> 3:08:07.360]  Well, he's the founder of Architects & Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
[3:08:07.360 --> 3:08:08.360]  He's Richard Gage.
[3:08:08.360 --> 3:08:14.360]  He is a Degreeed Architect Engineer, and he's gotten, I don't know, last time I talked to him,
[3:08:14.360 --> 3:08:16.360]  300 Architects & Engineers assigned him to his group.
[3:08:16.360 --> 3:08:17.360]  I don't know what it is now.
[3:08:17.360 --> 3:08:25.360]  He is a big part of our new film, Truth Rising, and you can see the full interview at prisonplanet.tv.
[3:08:25.360 --> 3:08:26.360]  We did with him.
[3:08:26.360 --> 3:08:27.360]  Clips of that are all over the web.
[3:08:27.360 --> 3:08:31.360]  One of the more popular interviews he's done covers a lot of the basic info.
[3:08:31.360 --> 3:08:35.360]  We're getting to some of how they blew the towers up and why they did it and new evidence has come out
[3:08:35.360 --> 3:08:39.360]  and how they're trying to debunk things and how they've now gotten peer-reviewed studies
[3:08:39.360 --> 3:08:45.360]  and gotten things published and peer-reviewed publications that are very prestigious.
[3:08:45.360 --> 3:08:48.360]  The globalists always move the goalposts.
[3:08:48.360 --> 3:08:51.360]  They say, you have no engineers or architects or physicists.
[3:08:51.360 --> 3:08:53.360]  Then we have hundreds and thousands total.
[3:08:53.360 --> 3:08:56.360]  And then, well, now you don't have any studies.
[3:08:56.360 --> 3:08:57.360]  Well, now they're not peer-reviewed.
[3:08:57.360 --> 3:08:59.360]  Well, now it's not a super prestigious.
[3:08:59.360 --> 3:09:02.360]  Well, it's super prestigious, but just on and on.
[3:09:02.360 --> 3:09:05.360]  Or they'll lie and say NIST says fired editor.
[3:09:05.360 --> 3:09:07.360]  The tank blew up or the building fell into it.
[3:09:07.360 --> 3:09:09.360]  And no, NIST says it's none of those.
[3:09:09.360 --> 3:09:10.360]  None of those.
[3:09:10.360 --> 3:09:11.360]  Go read the report.
[3:09:11.360 --> 3:09:13.360]  The liars think that you won't go read it.
[3:09:13.360 --> 3:09:18.360]  Or they think you're so dumb, they'll show you a report, the cover of it, and say it says one thing
[3:09:18.360 --> 3:09:21.360]  when it doesn't really say that inside and say we're lying.
[3:09:21.360 --> 3:09:26.360]  I mean, they resort to every form of lying you can imagine.
[3:09:26.360 --> 3:09:32.360]  The good news here, though, is that we're winning.
[3:09:32.360 --> 3:09:35.360]  And every poll and every number on every front, the new world order is in deep trouble.
[3:09:35.360 --> 3:09:38.360]  They're trying to say the White House, and it's a conspiracy theory.
[3:09:38.360 --> 3:09:42.360]  The White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan has said they lied about the war
[3:09:42.360 --> 3:09:45.360]  and premeditatedly staged it all in propaganda.
[3:09:45.360 --> 3:09:48.360]  That is actually a whitewash itself.
[3:09:48.360 --> 3:09:50.360]  It's all come out in documents.
[3:09:50.360 --> 3:09:51.360]  It's all been admitted.
[3:09:51.360 --> 3:09:52.360]  We've covered it.
[3:09:52.360 --> 3:09:55.360]  That they staged the whole deal and lied about uranium and yellow cake
[3:09:55.360 --> 3:09:59.360]  and tubes and CIA reports said they don't have weapons.
[3:09:59.360 --> 3:10:00.360]  They're not a threat.
[3:10:00.360 --> 3:10:05.360]  Bush would falsify it and hold it up and say it says he's a threat and has nukes.
[3:10:05.360 --> 3:10:07.360]  Every lie you can imagine.
[3:10:07.360 --> 3:10:08.360]  So you guys are blown.
[3:10:08.360 --> 3:10:10.360]  Now, I know you've devalued the dollar and you own everything.
[3:10:10.360 --> 3:10:13.360]  You've got a military and police that will follow orders.
[3:10:13.360 --> 3:10:14.360]  That's about all you got.
[3:10:14.360 --> 3:10:17.360]  I mean, you've got all the wealth and your trillions and your bank accounts
[3:10:17.360 --> 3:10:19.360]  and you've got your whole system.
[3:10:19.360 --> 3:10:20.360]  But the people know you're terrorists.
[3:10:20.360 --> 3:10:21.360]  They know you're murderers.
[3:10:21.360 --> 3:10:23.360]  They know you carried out the attacks.
[3:10:23.360 --> 3:10:25.360]  They know you killed a million Iraqis.
[3:10:25.360 --> 3:10:27.360]  You want to kill a million Iranians?
[3:10:27.360 --> 3:10:29.360]  They know what you're doing.
[3:10:29.360 --> 3:10:32.360]  And so, and they know it's both parties.
[3:10:32.360 --> 3:10:36.360]  This is the first time in our history that people have known that both parties are full of bull.
[3:10:36.360 --> 3:10:38.360]  So we now go to Richard Gage.
[3:10:38.360 --> 3:10:43.360]  Richard, first off, tell me you're going to be in Chicago, then get into how big the group's gotten,
[3:10:43.360 --> 3:10:44.360]  some of the things you're up to.
[3:10:44.360 --> 3:10:48.360]  I want to get into the feds, having congressional meetings and showing Al Qaeda training tapes
[3:10:48.360 --> 3:10:52.360]  and cutting to you and your website as if it's connected.
[3:10:52.360 --> 3:10:55.360]  Just a lot of insane demonization going on.
[3:10:55.360 --> 3:10:57.360]  Good to have you on, Richard Gage.
[3:10:57.360 --> 3:10:58.360]  Thank you, Alex.
[3:10:58.360 --> 3:11:02.360]  It's fantastic to be here again with you, as always.
[3:11:02.360 --> 3:11:04.360]  I am just delighted.
[3:11:04.360 --> 3:11:11.360]  We have almost 400, actually, that by this time we might have tipped over the 400 mark.
[3:11:11.360 --> 3:11:19.360]  Architects and engineers demanding a new investigation of the three World Trade Center high-rise collapses on 9-11
[3:11:19.360 --> 3:11:26.360]  based on the overwhelming evidence for controlled demolition of these three buildings.
[3:11:26.360 --> 3:11:29.360]  And, of course, most people don't even know there was a third.
[3:11:29.360 --> 3:11:36.360]  Your listeners know they're unique among radio talk show host listeners out there.
[3:11:36.360 --> 3:11:40.360]  But in case there's somebody who doesn't know, there was a third building that day
[3:11:40.360 --> 3:11:44.360]  that came down into virtually its own footprint at freefall speed,
[3:11:44.360 --> 3:11:48.360]  and we talk about that 47-story skyscraper.
[3:11:48.360 --> 3:11:58.360]  We'll be talking about it and the Twin Towers collapse in Chicago on this Friday, May 30th, 7 p.m.
[3:11:58.360 --> 3:12:05.360]  at the Student Center East at the University of Illinois, University of Chicago.
[3:12:05.360 --> 3:12:09.360]  Anyway, 750 South Halstead.
[3:12:09.360 --> 3:12:13.360]  There's a $7 admission or something like that.
[3:12:13.360 --> 3:12:19.360]  So we want everybody to fly to Chicago for this, if you can.
[3:12:19.360 --> 3:12:25.360]  Otherwise, I'll be in Minneapolis and probably, I think, August 1st we're looking at.
[3:12:25.360 --> 3:12:28.360]  And I'll be in Phoenix, June 28th.
[3:12:28.360 --> 3:12:33.360]  And we have an interesting debate with Mark Roberts that's going to play.
[3:12:33.360 --> 3:12:36.360]  We're going to air that on June 18th.
[3:12:36.360 --> 3:12:40.360]  He's one of the so-called debunkers of the 9-11 Truth Movement.
[3:12:40.360 --> 3:12:42.360]  So that's going to be very interesting.
[3:12:42.360 --> 3:12:45.360]  But we're not stopping.
[3:12:45.360 --> 3:12:52.360]  I've spoken now since we launched our website one year ago on Memorial Day.
[3:12:52.360 --> 3:13:01.360]  We've done 50 presentations in three dozen cities to groups of 100 to 600 people,
[3:13:01.360 --> 3:13:03.360]  and it just doesn't stop.
[3:13:03.360 --> 3:13:06.360]  Every architect or engineer that sees this information,
[3:13:06.360 --> 3:13:09.360]  once they get to the presentation, it's laid out for them.
[3:13:09.360 --> 3:13:14.360]  We talk about the microspheres, the tons of pulverized concrete to dust,
[3:13:14.360 --> 3:13:19.360]  the freefall speed of the collapse of all of these buildings, almost freefall.
[3:13:19.360 --> 3:13:23.360]  We have no floors found at the bottom of the Twin Towers.
[3:13:23.360 --> 3:13:25.360]  It goes on and on and on.
[3:13:25.360 --> 3:13:29.360]  It's just so obvious that they do see it, they do sign up,
[3:13:29.360 --> 3:13:34.360]  and we're expecting 1,000 architects and engineers by 9-11, 2008.
[3:13:34.360 --> 3:13:42.360]  And we will present that in a major way on that date to Congress and to major press releases.
[3:13:42.360 --> 3:13:45.360]  We're very, very excited about that.
[3:13:45.360 --> 3:13:48.360]  The momentum just continues.
[3:13:48.360 --> 3:13:53.360]  We now host on our membership Arizona State Senator Karen Johnson,
[3:13:53.360 --> 3:13:56.360]  who I think has been on your show as well, Alex.
[3:13:56.360 --> 3:14:01.360]  She is a real beacon for truth and light.
[3:14:01.360 --> 3:14:04.360]  She is bringing us, architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth,
[3:14:04.360 --> 3:14:13.360]  to the Arizona State Assembly where we will be speaking to the other 40 Republican senators directly for one hour.
[3:14:13.360 --> 3:14:16.360]  Wow, that's exciting. Congratulations on that.
[3:14:16.360 --> 3:14:17.360]  Thank you.
[3:14:17.360 --> 3:14:18.360]  Thank you.
[3:14:18.360 --> 3:14:20.360]  I think it's a big breakthrough, and I think it's just the beginning.
[3:14:20.360 --> 3:14:25.360]  I see this summer as the summer that breaks 9-11 into mainstream.
[3:14:25.360 --> 3:14:28.360]  I can't tell you where that's coming from so much.
[3:14:28.360 --> 3:14:31.360]  Let me give you some indicators.
[3:14:31.360 --> 3:14:34.360]  We've had all these big celebrities going public,
[3:14:34.360 --> 3:14:37.360]  actress of the year, Oscar winner,
[3:14:37.360 --> 3:14:40.360]  we've got Governor Ventura going public,
[3:14:40.360 --> 3:14:42.360]  icon, Willie Nelson, so loved.
[3:14:42.360 --> 3:14:45.360]  We've had all these other prominent people,
[3:14:45.360 --> 3:14:46.360]  I mean Tommy Chong,
[3:14:46.360 --> 3:14:48.360]  I mean the list goes on and on,
[3:14:48.360 --> 3:14:50.360]  German defense ministers coming public,
[3:14:50.360 --> 3:14:54.360]  high level people in the Japanese parliament going public,
[3:14:54.360 --> 3:14:57.360]  exponentially the polls showing more and more people understanding,
[3:14:57.360 --> 3:15:01.360]  and all this mainstream news about other states' government terror attacks,
[3:15:01.360 --> 3:15:06.360]  the Chicago Tribune admitting Israel premeditatedly attacked the U.S. as liberty,
[3:15:06.360 --> 3:15:09.360]  of course the syncing of the blame on Egypt,
[3:15:09.360 --> 3:15:12.360]  now top CIA people coming out and saying that's why they were doing it,
[3:15:12.360 --> 3:15:16.360]  of course concurring with myself because I interviewed the admirals and people onboard the ship,
[3:15:16.360 --> 3:15:18.360]  that's what they've always said.
[3:15:18.360 --> 3:15:22.360]  It wasn't about a massacre to cover up some massacre that Ariel Sharon had done,
[3:15:22.360 --> 3:15:23.360]  that was a diversion.
[3:15:23.360 --> 3:15:29.360]  It was about a nuclear war, Soviet Union starting with their satellite Egypt at the time.
[3:15:29.360 --> 3:15:33.360]  I mean it really is coming out, I mean it really, you can feel it,
[3:15:33.360 --> 3:15:35.360]  that's why my new film that you're in, Truth Rising,
[3:15:35.360 --> 3:15:38.360]  that's going to be released July 4th at prisonplanet.tv,
[3:15:38.360 --> 3:15:40.360]  and will ship on DVD July 4th,
[3:15:40.360 --> 3:15:43.360]  it's now been sent off to be mass-duplicated this morning.
[3:15:43.360 --> 3:15:48.360]  That is all happening, so Truth is rising Richard Gage.
[3:15:48.360 --> 3:15:50.360]  Now I want to hear you talk about another subject,
[3:15:50.360 --> 3:15:54.360]  and before we get back into your ball game and what you want to talk about,
[3:15:54.360 --> 3:15:58.360]  because I've got you here because I want to talk about what happened six, seven months ago,
[3:15:58.360 --> 3:16:05.360]  you got the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the ADL front group out there,
[3:16:05.360 --> 3:16:07.360]  mixing in 9-11 Truth groups,
[3:16:07.360 --> 3:16:10.360]  Architects and Engineers, the final 11 Truth is one of them,
[3:16:10.360 --> 3:16:12.360]  in between Al Qaeda tapes and Adam Gadan,
[3:16:12.360 --> 3:16:15.360]  the ADL heads grandson who dresses up and plays Al Qaeda,
[3:16:15.360 --> 3:16:18.360]  and it's coming out, the videos are fake, I mean this is too insane.
[3:16:18.360 --> 3:16:20.360]  Are they another guy?
[3:16:20.360 --> 3:16:26.360]  Oh yeah, it's all coming out as fake, it's coming out everywhere,
[3:16:26.360 --> 3:16:29.360]  both in video analysis, but that's another issue.
[3:16:29.360 --> 3:16:33.360]  I mean the point here is, yeah, it's the grandson of the head of the ADLs,
[3:16:33.360 --> 3:16:36.360]  the guy doing it, who would go and beat up Arabs on the street, he headed them so much,
[3:16:36.360 --> 3:16:38.360]  I mean this is a complete fraud,
[3:16:38.360 --> 3:16:40.360]  but this is how he can hurt Arabs as much as possible,
[3:16:40.360 --> 3:16:42.360]  is by posing as one, as a Wahhabist,
[3:16:42.360 --> 3:16:45.360]  meanwhile the government's using the Wahhabist to attack Iran,
[3:16:45.360 --> 3:16:49.360]  saying Iran or Wahhabist, I mean it's just, I can't get over it,
[3:16:49.360 --> 3:16:52.360]  but you have been attacked, 9-11 Truth has been attacked,
[3:16:52.360 --> 3:16:55.360]  I know you guys called them, wanted to have them retract it,
[3:16:55.360 --> 3:16:57.360]  what happened, first break down what happened,
[3:16:57.360 --> 3:17:00.360]  the violent radicalization act, how they want to restrict us,
[3:17:00.360 --> 3:17:02.360]  how they're saying we're terrorists,
[3:17:02.360 --> 3:17:05.360]  and what it's like to be named in Congress,
[3:17:05.360 --> 3:17:08.360]  they must be threatened by your group.
[3:17:08.360 --> 3:17:14.360]  I suppose so, what we had is the Homeland Security,
[3:17:14.360 --> 3:17:19.360]  Subcommittee on Homegrown Terrorism,
[3:17:19.360 --> 3:17:23.360]  they had this presentation called,
[3:17:23.360 --> 3:17:25.360]  Using the Web as a Weapon,
[3:17:25.360 --> 3:17:29.360]  The Internet as a Tool for Violent Radicalization in Homegrown Terrorism,
[3:17:29.360 --> 3:17:34.360]  this was on November 6th before Representative Jane Harmon,
[3:17:34.360 --> 3:17:38.360]  who's heavily involved, by the way, in the defense industry,
[3:17:38.360 --> 3:17:43.360]  as our own Senator Barbara Boxer's husband is, et cetera, et cetera,
[3:17:43.360 --> 3:17:50.360]  but they have this statement in this presentation,
[3:17:50.360 --> 3:17:54.360]  in which they're trying to sell the Senate bill,
[3:17:54.360 --> 3:18:00.360]  at the time House Bill 1955, now Senate Bill 1959,
[3:18:00.360 --> 3:18:05.360]  and it's the Homegrown Terrorism Act and Violent Radicalization,
[3:18:05.360 --> 3:18:11.360]  they have this five-minute presentation from Mark Weitzman
[3:18:11.360 --> 3:18:15.360]  and Wiesenthal Center, in which our website,
[3:18:15.360 --> 3:18:20.360]  just a group of architects and engineers looking at the science-based forensic evidence,
[3:18:20.360 --> 3:18:23.360]  you know, of the three World Trade Center high-rise collapses,
[3:18:23.360 --> 3:18:31.360]  that's all we're doing, you can see it right there on AE911truth.org,
[3:18:31.360 --> 3:18:33.360]  a pretty innocent little website,
[3:18:33.360 --> 3:18:36.360]  but there it is sandwiched before all the congressmen
[3:18:36.360 --> 3:18:41.360]  between these jihadi militant websites, Taliban,
[3:18:41.360 --> 3:18:47.360]  and he even uses the words while our website is up,
[3:18:47.360 --> 3:18:52.360]  and finally we end with a site that literally talks about the bombing of soon, soon, soon,
[3:18:52.360 --> 3:18:55.360]  the attack on Manhattan.
[3:18:55.360 --> 3:18:59.360]  And by the way, we also know that was in a written color report,
[3:18:59.360 --> 3:19:02.360]  they gave them with your site and group on it,
[3:19:02.360 --> 3:19:05.360]  and we know the State Department attacks us and others.
[3:19:05.360 --> 3:19:09.360]  No, they, the individuals that are using these attacks to take our liberties,
[3:19:09.360 --> 3:19:12.360]  they are the terrorists, and I know the terrorists are upset, Richard,
[3:19:12.360 --> 3:19:14.360]  that you're exposing them.
[3:19:14.360 --> 3:19:18.360]  Well, and they actually call us in general,
[3:19:18.360 --> 3:19:23.360]  in the 9-Eleven Truth Movement, anti-Semites,
[3:19:23.360 --> 3:19:27.360]  Richard, stay there, the only place to hear what you're about to hear
[3:19:27.360 --> 3:19:30.360]  is online at infowords.com, everybody else will be back in four minutes.
[3:19:30.360 --> 3:19:34.360]  Richard, stay there, we're going to talk to the President of Planet.TV viewers right now,
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[3:23:44.360 --> 3:24:11.360]  Okay Richard, Gage, Architects, Engineers, 9-11-Truth.com, or let's right now get back into, not only are they demonizing 9-11-Truth,
[3:24:11.360 --> 3:24:16.360]  you're a group who is just scientifically not even saying who blew the towers up.
[3:24:16.360 --> 3:24:25.360]  You're just saying, man, ejecting steel 500 feet, turned into dust, blown little pieces, all the explosives residue, we better investigate this.
[3:24:25.360 --> 3:24:27.360]  And then they run up saying, why do you love Hitler?
[3:24:27.360 --> 3:24:33.360]  When you're not talking about Israel, you're not talking about Jews, you're not talking about Kebler elves or clockwork elves,
[3:24:33.360 --> 3:24:37.360]  you are talking about these buildings were blown up.
[3:24:37.360 --> 3:24:40.360]  That's pretty suspicious, isn't it?
[3:24:40.360 --> 3:24:49.360]  It really, really is. We're concerned about being drawn into and called anti-Semitic and so forth.
[3:24:49.360 --> 3:24:53.360]  We're just architects and scientists and building professionals.
[3:24:53.360 --> 3:25:05.360]  And here, I think I can address this by pointing out that the physics of 9-11 is not anti-Semitic, and that is all we are talking about.
[3:25:05.360 --> 3:25:15.360]  I wrote to Mark Weitzman, our constitutional republic was founded upon the fundamental right to ask questions to man answers and to seek truth and justice.
[3:25:15.360 --> 3:25:18.360]  This is all that we in the 9-11-Truth movement are seeking.
[3:25:18.360 --> 3:25:26.360]  Of all people and of all organizations, you, Mark Weitzman and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, who highlight the virtue of tolerance,
[3:25:26.360 --> 3:25:32.360]  should be honoring our right to ask these questions, not branding us as terrorists or anti-Semites.
[3:25:32.360 --> 3:25:37.360]  Yeah, I thought it was the Nazis that wanted to restrict free speech.
[3:25:37.360 --> 3:25:42.360]  Yeah, we're fighting Nazism.
[3:25:42.360 --> 3:25:47.360]  That seems like a close parallel.
[3:25:47.360 --> 3:25:56.360]  Your behavior, I tell him, reeks of the McCarthyism of the 1950s and is totally unacceptable to me, our members and all Americans who cherish the First Amendment.
[3:25:56.360 --> 3:26:07.360]  Regarding this anti-Semitism noted in your letter, we too abhor bigotry in all its forms and have distanced ourselves from those few in the 9-11-Truth movement who have engaged in it.
[3:26:07.360 --> 3:26:15.360]  But anti-Semitism has nothing to do with our website or the science or the destruction of the Three World Trade Center High-Rice Buildings on 9-11 to which it's dedicated.
[3:26:15.360 --> 3:26:21.360]  The scientific method is nonpartisan, apolitical, and a transparent process.
[3:26:21.360 --> 3:26:26.360]  Scientists defend their positions in public based on accepted, defensible processes.
[3:26:26.360 --> 3:26:35.360]  While reports put forth by the government and others have labored in vain to explain away the massive scientific evidence for controlled demolition left behind in the rubble,
[3:26:35.360 --> 3:26:46.360]  the witness testimony, the videos we at AE 9-11-Truth have simply collected, assembled, and structured it in a way which enables everyone to understand it easily.
[3:26:46.360 --> 3:26:52.360]  Simon Wiesenthal was a paragon for seeking the truth, however hard and difficult it might have been.
[3:26:52.360 --> 3:27:03.360]  The Simon Wiesenthal Center should be honoring our right to publish technical information and encourage fact-based forensic inquiry into the three largest structural failures in U.S. history,
[3:27:03.360 --> 3:27:12.360]  not branding us as insiders of terrorism. Tolerance arises from understanding and understanding from direct experience.
[3:27:12.360 --> 3:27:21.360]  In this light, we'd like to meet with you and your board and staff to present to you the specific concerns documented at AE 9-11-Truth regarding the science of these collapses.
[3:27:21.360 --> 3:27:30.360]  We'd like to learn from you what you perceive as so threatening so as to deem it necessary to warn Congress about us.
[3:27:30.360 --> 3:27:39.360]  By understanding each other's concerns, we will strengthen our mutual resolve to work toward the creation of a more truthful and tolerant society.
[3:27:39.360 --> 3:27:43.360]  And we ask to meet with them, which they have never responded to.
[3:27:43.360 --> 3:27:48.360]  Oh, they never do. Now, you guys have gotten so many other engineers.
[3:27:48.360 --> 3:27:53.360]  You said over 400. There's all these other physicists, scientists, underwriting laboratories, people.
[3:27:53.360 --> 3:27:57.360]  I mean, the evidence nixed admits that they're having to look at bombs in the buildings now.
[3:27:57.360 --> 3:28:00.360]  We have all these firefighters saying, you know, they're going to blow it up, get back.
[3:28:00.360 --> 3:28:04.360]  We've been told, get back. And no, don't misrepresent us.
[3:28:04.360 --> 3:28:11.360]  9-11 debunkers, truth debunkers. We're not saying the firefighters did it. They were compartmentalized and told to get back.
[3:28:11.360 --> 3:28:17.360]  So don't try to misrepresent again. We believe it was a demolition team, some controlled demolition company that did it.
[3:28:17.360 --> 3:28:19.360]  And it would only take about 100 people to do it.
[3:28:19.360 --> 3:28:24.360]  Well, there are witnesses also of sounds of explosions at the base of Building 7.
[3:28:24.360 --> 3:28:36.360]  Kevin McPadden, former Air Force search and rescue officer, discusses hearing the sounds of explosions that shook the ground.
[3:28:36.360 --> 3:28:46.360]  And then the building came down. In fact, prior to that, a couple of seconds, he heard a radio in the hands of a Red Cross worker.
[3:28:46.360 --> 3:28:47.360]  Yeah, a countdown.
[3:28:47.360 --> 3:28:48.360]  They were here to countdown.
[3:28:48.360 --> 3:28:49.360]  And they said, run for your lives.
[3:28:49.360 --> 3:28:50.360]  Yeah.
[3:28:50.360 --> 3:28:51.360]  They said, run for your lives.
[3:28:51.360 --> 3:28:53.360]  Three, two, one, yeah.
[3:28:53.360 --> 3:28:59.360]  I don't know why he would have said that, but fires don't respond to countdown. It just doesn't happen like that.
[3:28:59.360 --> 3:29:06.360]  Well, the reason he said that is, is the firefighters were all pulling out, the police were pulling out, and the volunteer EMTs were going, why is everybody running?
[3:29:06.360 --> 3:29:12.360]  And the guy was like, hold on, hold on. He's like, just run for your lives. All right, listen. And then he let them hear it and they all start running.
[3:29:12.360 --> 3:29:21.360]  Because, you know, the firefighters, the police weren't involved. They told them, get back, building coming down. And then they heard the countdown, which is admitted they kept saying during the news, they may bring that building down.
[3:29:21.360 --> 3:29:25.360]  I actually heard that on ABC News in my car that day.
[3:29:25.360 --> 3:29:29.360]  They're thinking about bringing down the Solomon Brothers building for safety concerns.
[3:29:29.360 --> 3:29:55.360]  But see, they don't want an investigation about that. We'll be right back.
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[3:33:11.360 --> 3:33:22.360]  I was making the point to Richard Gage during the break behind the scenes for prisonplanet.tv viewers that the debunkers,
[3:33:22.360 --> 3:33:27.360]  they have been making fun of the fact that Richard Gage's wife left him over all of this.
[3:33:27.360 --> 3:33:32.360]  They call up threatening other people at their homes. They post the tapes online. They're very proud of themselves.
[3:33:32.360 --> 3:33:38.360]  Every dirty trick, every form of lying, every form of threat, I had them call up and threaten to call CPS on my kids.
[3:33:38.360 --> 3:33:41.360]  And then they're mad that I threatened them back and said, I'm going to have to sue you.
[3:33:41.360 --> 3:33:47.360]  And they posted something else about it the other day. I mean, just if the CPS shows up in my house, you will be sued.
[3:33:47.360 --> 3:33:51.360]  Okay, you understand you bastard? I think I'm just going to go ahead and do it. I'm just tired.
[3:33:51.360 --> 3:34:00.360]  I even know who this person is. But the point is that, you know, these are the type of threats we get from the big 9-11 debunkers.
[3:34:00.360 --> 3:34:04.360]  Now, some of them we know are government agents and on the government payroll.
[3:34:04.360 --> 3:34:12.360]  And when it comes out, the 9-11 is an inside job. When it comes out, just like it's come out, the liberty was staged.
[3:34:12.360 --> 3:34:18.360]  Now, declassified mainstream news, just like it came out, govletonkin was staged. But this was 3,000 people you killed.
[3:34:18.360 --> 3:34:27.360]  Those of you that debunked and covered up and when your bank accounts get checked and it gets shown that you were involved in taking government money for this,
[3:34:27.360 --> 3:34:32.360]  you're going to go to prison. You understand? You're going to go to prison.
[3:34:32.360 --> 3:34:40.360]  Because your threats, your lies, your intimidation, all the crap you've pulled, it's not funny that Richard Gage's wife left him.
[3:34:40.360 --> 3:34:45.360]  It's not funny those towers were blown up and all those people died. It's not funny that you threatened me.
[3:34:45.360 --> 3:34:51.360]  And look, it's going to come out. I know in my gut the new loader is coming down. It may take 5 years, 10 years, 20 years.
[3:34:51.360 --> 3:34:57.360]  But we're going to haul your butt out of your house. You're going to go before a grand jury and you're going to get indicted and you're going to go to prison.
[3:34:57.360 --> 3:35:00.360]  What do you say to them apples, Richard Gage?
[3:35:00.360 --> 3:35:05.360]  I find that comforting, Alex. It'll be a nice switch around.
[3:35:05.360 --> 3:35:12.360]  It's the people that are telling the truth are so in the minority speaking out.
[3:35:12.360 --> 3:35:20.360]  There's so few of us and we're working so hard against such great odds against the media complicity and silence.
[3:35:20.360 --> 3:35:25.360]  I've had them call up and say, I'm going to file a false report and have your children taken.
[3:35:25.360 --> 3:35:29.360]  And I'm just like, my God, you're actually telling me this to my face.
[3:35:29.360 --> 3:35:35.360]  And I go, go ahead and do your crime. I know the cops aren't going to do anything, but you're going to pay.
[3:35:35.360 --> 3:35:40.360]  Don't make me spend 30 grand to sue you and they just can't control them. I've had to do this a couple other times.
[3:35:40.360 --> 3:35:45.360]  You think I like having to go build a case, drag you through the mud, make you hire lawyers?
[3:35:45.360 --> 3:35:50.360]  Just, you know, folks, give me a bunch of money because I want to sue a bunch of people too and I'm not litigious.
[3:35:50.360 --> 3:35:55.360]  It's not even for money. When I sue them and even for money, it's to make them hire lawyers to hurt them back.
[3:35:55.360 --> 3:36:02.360]  I am sick of being messed with. I'm sick of the harassment and I'm not going to be pushed around anymore, Richard.
[3:36:02.360 --> 3:36:12.360]  Good. I don't have the same set of experiences, fortunately, yet. I hope I don't.
[3:36:12.360 --> 3:36:16.360]  I don't know what I'll do if I... Richard, I'm just getting real in my audience.
[3:36:16.360 --> 3:36:21.360]  I'm just getting around the dinner table with my grandmother and my parents last night for a party.
[3:36:21.360 --> 3:36:24.360]  And I just started saying what I really thought about other issues.
[3:36:24.360 --> 3:36:28.360]  I mean, I'm going to just start saying what I really think and what's really going on behind the scenes here
[3:36:28.360 --> 3:36:32.360]  because listeners need to know the kind of stuff we go through every day. Go ahead.
[3:36:32.360 --> 3:36:45.360]  Yeah. I think they do because I'm now at the presentations. I'm having to make sure people are aware that we cannot save this country
[3:36:45.360 --> 3:36:51.360]  by continuing to drain the equity in our home and having to sell it by ourselves.
[3:36:51.360 --> 3:37:00.360]  You know, the few leaders in the 9-11 Truth Movement must be supported by those of your listeners and those who come to the presentations.
[3:37:00.360 --> 3:37:09.360]  We have a lot of work to do, and it is very expensive to produce new informational products to wake up the American people.
[3:37:09.360 --> 3:37:15.360]  It's very expensive to put ads in paper, and we rarely break even on these presentations.
[3:37:15.360 --> 3:37:27.360]  We're not financially successful. Maybe we're not the best business people. I don't know about you, but we need a lot of help.
[3:37:27.360 --> 3:37:35.360]  People can go to our website if they really want to help and click the become a sustaining member button.
[3:37:35.360 --> 3:37:44.360]  I mean, for as little as $10 a month, people can make a huge difference in this organization, which is at the forefront,
[3:37:44.360 --> 3:37:52.360]  along with Stephen Jones and David Ray Griffin and yourself and others, because we have the necessary credibility
[3:37:52.360 --> 3:37:59.360]  with those architects and engineers, and when we have a thousand and we won't get to a thousand without the help of your members,
[3:37:59.360 --> 3:38:07.360]  we will turn heads in Congress, but we've got to have the support, so I hear that too.
[3:38:07.360 --> 3:38:13.360]  Yeah, well, I also want to point out that every day I have people like yourself on and then try to be an aircraft carrier
[3:38:13.360 --> 3:38:17.360]  for everybody else so that people then go support you. That's what I do.
[3:38:17.360 --> 3:38:22.360]  I have hundreds of people on every month and try to get my listeners to support them. I know my listeners can't support everybody.
[3:38:22.360 --> 3:38:26.360]  That's why we need to grow this audience, because that's all this is, is a launchpad.
[3:38:26.360 --> 3:38:31.360]  You know, the other organizations and groups and things and churches that do other things, they just tell you,
[3:38:31.360 --> 3:38:35.360]  feel good, don't be politically involved, do what the government says, and only give money to this ministry.
[3:38:35.360 --> 3:38:40.360]  I don't do that. I think I've never asked for money in the past. I've had to tell everybody, give money to everybody else.
[3:38:40.360 --> 3:38:47.360]  Now, I'm saying support me, because I need to be able to defend myself from lawsuits if they happen. I need to be able to protect my own family
[3:38:47.360 --> 3:38:51.360]  by suing people. Believe me, I don't want to waste my time doing it, but sometimes I just have to.
[3:38:51.360 --> 3:38:57.360]  I need to be able to pay for a Zogby poll to get major attention on something or on 9-11.
[3:38:57.360 --> 3:39:04.360]  I need to be able to get a bigger office, better bandwidth, better cameras, fly somewhere to cover something, to get media coverage.
[3:39:04.360 --> 3:39:10.360]  I mean, you know, we are having an effect and we do need support. That's why the Info Wars Money Bomb is coming up Saturday.
[3:39:10.360 --> 3:39:15.360]  And I'm asking everybody I've supported, even other talk show hosts and other people I've, and other groups, to come on
[3:39:15.360 --> 3:39:19.360]  and, you know, Jeb or Griffin, who I've got him thousands of new members to his freedom force.
[3:39:19.360 --> 3:39:23.360]  I'm asking him to come on and support me, because, you know, I am really a nexus point.
[3:39:23.360 --> 3:39:28.360]  This radio show is, and we need people's support, and we need it as fast as possible.
[3:39:28.360 --> 3:39:37.360]  So, absolutely. Richard, you've got the floor for a few minutes. Get into some of the basic science of what happened.
[3:39:37.360 --> 3:39:47.360]  You got it. And that is our mission and our goal, to raise awareness with the architecture and engineering community
[3:39:47.360 --> 3:39:56.360]  and all others, actually. And that's what we'll be doing in Chicago at 7 p.m. this Friday night at the University of Chicago.
[3:39:56.360 --> 3:40:06.360]  And we're going to be talking about the fact that in the Twin Towers, we're told that there's this 15-story section of building
[3:40:06.360 --> 3:40:15.360]  that crushes the rest of the building at freefall speed and crushing 80,000 tons of structural steel,
[3:40:15.360 --> 3:40:22.360]  as if it didn't even exist underneath this section. Well, there's a few problems with it, other than the fact that it violates the
[3:40:22.360 --> 3:40:32.360]  laws of physics. There is no 15-story section up there. It's destroyed itself in about two or three seconds.
[3:40:32.360 --> 3:40:40.360]  It has decomposed into nothing. And then after that, what we see is the building tearing itself apart at freefall speed.
[3:40:40.360 --> 3:40:47.360]  We have asymmetrical damage from the airplane up above, but all the videos from down below show equal bands of explosions
[3:40:47.360 --> 3:40:55.360]  traveling down the building in about 10 seconds. It's very clear, clearly,
[3:40:55.360 --> 3:41:02.360]  sets of explosions that were heard by 118 firefighters that we finally learned about in August of 2005,
[3:41:02.360 --> 3:41:12.360]  who were recorded by their chief fire commissioner. They talk about flashes of light, sounds of explosions
[3:41:12.360 --> 3:41:22.360]  at the onset of both of these collapses in the towers. They talk about this debris being expelled out prior to the building
[3:41:22.360 --> 3:41:34.360]  coming down. And this debris is expelled at 70 to 100 miles per hour and lands 600 feet away from the towers perimeter.
[3:41:34.360 --> 3:41:43.360]  Some of it, some of these four and 20-ton wall units. Well, that takes about the same energy as to fire a 200-pound cannonball
[3:41:43.360 --> 3:41:52.360]  three miles. So where's that energy coming from? Where's the energy coming from to pulverize 90,000 tons of concrete
[3:41:52.360 --> 3:42:00.360]  to a fine powder, much of which is smaller than the human hair? Where does the energy come from to produce tons of molten
[3:42:00.360 --> 3:42:07.360]  metal that's seen by the first responders and even the World Trade Center structural engineer Leslie Robertson himself,
[3:42:07.360 --> 3:42:17.360]  who said at a conference in October of 2001, as of 21 days after the attack, molten steel was still running.
[3:42:17.360 --> 3:42:25.360]  Well, it turns out not to be molten steel, it's a different product. It's molten iron. Where did tons of molten iron come from?
[3:42:25.360 --> 3:42:33.360]  You know, it doesn't have chromium in it. This is iron. Well, molten iron is the byproduct of thermite, a high-tech
[3:42:33.360 --> 3:42:43.360]  incendiary used to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. So if it turns out that the ends of the beams
[3:42:43.360 --> 3:42:52.360]  that are ejected out of these twin towers, FEMA finds that they're partially evaporated, that they have the evidence
[3:42:52.360 --> 3:43:02.360]  of intergranular melting, oxidation, sulfidation. This doesn't happen by fires. Normal office fires are 1,400 degrees
[3:43:02.360 --> 3:43:10.360]  maximum, and even jet fuel doesn't burn any hotter than that, like desk chairs, carpeting, etc. So where does the temperature
[3:43:10.360 --> 3:43:17.360]  come from to melt steel, which takes up to 2,700 degrees before it even begins to melt?
[3:43:17.360 --> 3:43:23.360]  Richard Gage, we've got to leave it right there. People can find out more about your Chicago and other appearances
[3:43:23.360 --> 3:43:28.360]  at your websites. Thank you so much for spending time with us, and thank you for the great job you're doing.
[3:43:28.360 --> 3:43:34.360]  And as soon as we have some pre-DVDs burned in the next few weeks, and we don't even have them yet, we'll be able
[3:43:34.360 --> 3:43:40.360]  to send you out an advanced copy of 9-11 Chronicles Part 1, Truth Rising. Thank you for spending time with us.
[3:43:40.360 --> 3:43:43.360]  Can't wait to see it. Thanks, Alex. I appreciate it.
[3:43:43.360 --> 3:43:47.360]  God bless you. Great having you on, Richard Gage. What a great person.
[3:43:47.360 --> 3:43:52.360]  Yeah, I mean, it really does disgust me, the little celebrations they have about his wife leaving him over this stuff.
[3:43:52.360 --> 3:43:58.360]  It's not because he believes it's an inside job, she said. It's because she just doesn't like the threats, the calls.
[3:43:58.360 --> 3:44:04.360]  She wants her life. Hey, I don't want to deal with this. Well, you don't deal with this. You get Nazi Germany.
[3:44:04.360 --> 3:44:10.360]  You get Soviet Russia. Oh, I said something bad about Nazis. I'll have the ADL saying I'm bad now.
[3:44:10.360 --> 3:44:19.360]  Marines, now let me shift gears. Marines bringing combat training to Indy, Indianapolis star.
[3:44:19.360 --> 3:44:24.360]  We don't want anyone thinking that there's an invasion happening or that we declared martial law or something like that.
[3:44:24.360 --> 3:44:31.360]  Fletcher said the local emergency manager, who the Marines are being integrated and merged into, it goes on.
[3:44:31.360 --> 3:44:39.360]  Our aim in Indianapolis is to expose our Marines to realistic scenarios and stress posed by operating in an actual urban community.
[3:44:39.360 --> 3:44:47.360]  Thereby increasing their proficiency in built-up areas at Colonel Mark J. Denson's commander of the 26MEU.
[3:44:47.360 --> 3:44:52.360]  And it goes on to say we'll be in residential areas, residents of many areas.
[3:44:52.360 --> 3:44:57.360]  We can expect to see helicopters flying overhead, military vehicles flying overhead.
[3:44:57.360 --> 3:45:02.360]  We can expect to see helicopters flying overhead, military vehicles flying overhead.
[3:45:02.360 --> 3:45:12.360]  And it goes on to say we'll be in residential areas, residents of many areas. We can expect to see helicopters flying overhead, military vehicles on the roads and Marines patrolling on foot.
[3:45:12.360 --> 3:45:29.360]  Denson said. And then it goes on from there. The Marines will practice firing weapons, conducting patrols, running vehicle checkpoints, reacting to ambushes and employing non-lethal weapons according to the statement.
[3:45:29.360 --> 3:45:35.360]  And it goes on to say that the police will be working with them at local schools and other things.
[3:45:35.360 --> 3:45:39.360]  Okay, I've been to these drills. I didn't know what they were when I was told I needed to go to them.
[3:45:39.360 --> 3:45:44.360]  I ran into police chiefs who they tried to bribe with buckets of cash, bags of cash.
[3:45:44.360 --> 3:45:52.360]  I ran into emergency managers who had been in Army intelligence, so they were let in to be told we're training for gun confiscation sometime in the future.
[3:45:52.360 --> 3:45:58.360]  I went to urban warfare drills with thousands of troops, firing troops, role-players saying I'm an American, no, not the camp.
[3:45:58.360 --> 3:46:03.360]  I've got about nine hours, four films covering this.
[3:46:03.360 --> 3:46:13.360]  I mean, it's not me. It's the video of it happening and the documents of Army, Marines, others engaging in all manners of crime without violating the Posse Commentatus,
[3:46:13.360 --> 3:46:24.360]  using the military on the American people, calling it drills, pulling over real buses, nine hours late, searching their bus for nine hours, not letting them know it's a drill while they freak out,
[3:46:24.360 --> 3:46:32.360]  taking people to jail, arresting people on the side of the highway. The police come over, stop your car, then they let the Marines feed on you.
[3:46:32.360 --> 3:46:38.360]  And it's not quote training. The cops are so dumb they don't know this. It's in all the documents.
[3:46:38.360 --> 3:46:43.360]  But the higher-ups all know what they're doing. It's to acclimate the police, the military, the public, everybody.
[3:46:43.360 --> 3:46:50.360]  But all that aside, instead of debating this, the documents are now out that illegally back in the 80s,
[3:46:50.360 --> 3:46:54.360]  the Marines were doing gun confiscations already with the police.
[3:46:54.360 --> 3:47:00.360]  I mean, this isn't quote, again, you'll hear him say they would call it training, but then it was real.
[3:47:00.360 --> 3:47:05.360]  Now, this was when it was a total felony to do this. It's still illegal, but they've watered it down someone.
[3:47:05.360 --> 3:47:11.360]  So this is your government committing crime, the military running operations quietly against the American people.
[3:47:11.360 --> 3:47:15.360]  You hear about the Pentagon spying on peace groups, spying on anti-corruption groups.
[3:47:15.360 --> 3:47:20.360]  You know, they're involved everywhere now. Hot treason, they're the enemy, they're the terrorist.
[3:47:20.360 --> 3:47:24.360]  Do I hate our average military? No. I realize how they've been used and controlled.
[3:47:24.360 --> 3:47:30.360]  So here's a few minutes from road to tyranny. This guy gave me all his documents, all his credentials, photos of it all.
[3:47:30.360 --> 3:47:37.360]  We didn't show it in the film. We then show other secret documents, some which haven't been declassified yet, some of which have been,
[3:47:37.360 --> 3:47:43.360]  in the film, but people should watch road to tyranny because we show you how they carried out 9-11 in Oklahoma City
[3:47:43.360 --> 3:47:46.360]  and the federal trade center attack and now what they're doing. Here it is.
[3:47:46.360 --> 3:47:50.360]  Caller homes. One was a warehouse facility.
[3:47:50.360 --> 3:47:53.360]  Later on in the life of the Allen Marine Corps, you got into law enforcement.
[3:47:53.360 --> 3:47:56.360]  Is that when you started asking questions once you learned more?
[3:47:56.360 --> 3:48:03.360]  I don't know why that DVD. It doesn't matter. I try my hardest around here and it just doesn't happen.
[3:48:03.360 --> 3:48:08.360]  You know what? John actually has the audio queued up at the network.
[3:48:08.360 --> 3:48:13.360]  Play it from 33 minutes in from that clip by saying, John, we'll just do this the old fashioned way.
[3:48:13.360 --> 3:48:16.360]  John, you got that audio?
[3:48:16.360 --> 3:48:18.360]  Go ahead and roll it.
[3:48:22.360 --> 3:48:26.360]  Our team was in Swansborough, North Carolina back in 2000.
[3:48:26.360 --> 3:48:31.360]  In February of 2002, two special forces trainings were killed by a sheriff's deputy.
[3:48:31.360 --> 3:48:34.360]  You ask why? They were trying to disarm him.
[3:48:34.360 --> 3:48:38.360]  They were trying to take over local law enforcement.
[3:48:38.360 --> 3:48:43.360]  This is the new type of training that our military are being given to overthrow the civilian government,
[3:48:43.360 --> 3:48:46.360]  the elected government, right here in the United States.
[3:48:46.360 --> 3:48:51.360]  And shockingly enough, there are actually two cases of this in the same week in North Carolina
[3:48:51.360 --> 3:48:56.360]  where they were being trained to overthrow the civilian government.
[3:48:56.360 --> 3:49:05.360]  This looks like a gag on Mr. Wright. Get these lines ready.
[3:49:05.360 --> 3:49:08.360]  Sir, we're prepared. Ready? Go, sir!
[3:49:08.360 --> 3:49:10.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:10.360 --> 3:49:12.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:12.360 --> 3:49:14.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:14.360 --> 3:49:16.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:16.360 --> 3:49:18.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:18.360 --> 3:49:20.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:20.360 --> 3:49:22.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:22.360 --> 3:49:24.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:24.360 --> 3:49:26.360]  What's going on?
[3:49:26.360 --> 3:49:29.360]  Every day in America, militarized SWAT teams kill innocent people,
[3:49:29.360 --> 3:49:31.360]  and they're rarely held accountable.
[3:49:31.360 --> 3:49:34.360]  More often, they kill their own officers,
[3:49:34.360 --> 3:49:36.360]  and still they're not held accountable.
[3:49:36.360 --> 3:49:39.360]  What's happening in America? How do they become so militarized?
[3:49:39.360 --> 3:49:44.360]  We interviewed a former Marine Corps officer who, in 1989, while he was in the Marine Corps,
[3:49:44.360 --> 3:49:48.360]  was serving search warrants on American citizens' homes and businesses.
[3:49:48.360 --> 3:49:50.360]  Just start at the beginning for us.
[3:49:50.360 --> 3:49:56.360]  A little bit about your past, how you first got involved in the military,
[3:49:56.360 --> 3:49:59.360]  and some of the things you did, and then later in life,
[3:49:59.360 --> 3:50:05.360]  some of the questions that you started raising to yourself after you've been a police officer.
[3:50:05.360 --> 3:50:08.360]  I started out at Join the Marines,
[3:50:08.360 --> 3:50:13.360]  tested real high on the ASVAB, which is the Armed Forces Vocational Attitude Battery,
[3:50:13.360 --> 3:50:17.360]  did real well in that, and it was an MP5800 military police.
[3:50:17.360 --> 3:50:23.360]  From that, I was sent over to various duty stations.
[3:50:23.360 --> 3:50:27.360]  It started interested in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take it.
[3:50:27.360 --> 3:50:30.360]  The show, with the rest of this,
[3:50:30.360 --> 3:50:34.360]  this is the illegal government sneaking around, running our lives,
[3:50:34.360 --> 3:50:37.360]  doing whatever they want, they're all around you, they do what they want,
[3:50:37.360 --> 3:50:40.360]  they own you and your family, they're getting ready to make you their slaves.
[3:50:40.360 --> 3:50:42.360]  Just watch, watch it happen.
[3:50:42.360 --> 3:50:45.360]  The military is now run by foreign banks.
[3:50:45.360 --> 3:50:47.360]  Why should we fire Congress?
[3:50:47.360 --> 3:50:50.360]  Because they use the Constitution of the United States as a scrap of paper.
[3:50:50.360 --> 3:50:53.360]  They swear an oath to follow it, and then they reject it.
[3:50:53.360 --> 3:50:55.360]  That was their employment document.
[3:50:55.360 --> 3:50:57.360]  They haven't followed it.
[3:50:57.360 --> 3:50:59.360]  Congressman, Senators, you're fired.
[3:50:59.360 --> 3:51:01.360]  Washington, you're fired!
[3:51:01.360 --> 3:51:03.360]  I think it's the next freedom to fascism.
[3:51:03.360 --> 3:51:04.360]  Washington, you're fired!
[3:51:04.360 --> 3:51:07.360]  was born out of sheer frustration with abuses in our current political system,
[3:51:07.360 --> 3:51:09.360]  and it gives a voice to Americans across the country.
[3:51:09.360 --> 3:51:14.360]  Washington, you're fired! examines constitutional issues as they relate to the Katrina Disaster,
[3:51:14.360 --> 3:51:18.360]  the President's illegal spy program, NSA data mining, Pfizer's Secret Court,
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[3:54:10.160 --> 3:54:15.160]  You know, I wanted to come on here today and go through hours of evidence about the military takeover.
[3:54:15.160 --> 3:54:26.160]  I mean, I know there is a slow motion, deliberate, public, admitted plan for complete martial law, gun confiscation, slave labor camps.
[3:54:26.160 --> 3:54:30.160]  Just this country is going to be such a hell pit. You're not going to believe it.
[3:54:30.160 --> 3:54:33.160]  A lot of Americans think they're part of the elite.
[3:54:33.160 --> 3:54:35.160]  We're killing the Iraqis, taking the royal.
[3:54:35.160 --> 3:54:39.160]  Hey, idiot, you're having your stuff taken too. You're being fed on. You're not a predator.
[3:54:39.160 --> 3:54:42.160]  You're not on the top, even if you think you are.
[3:54:42.160 --> 3:54:45.160]  I mean, it's nothing more pathetic than these evil people who think they've got power.
[3:54:45.160 --> 3:54:49.160]  You're low level little goblins, little skinny pathetic.
[3:54:49.160 --> 3:54:57.160]  I mean, the spiritual sense, little snot-nosed, pathetic, maggot-covered, rotten, about to fall over dead maggot goblins,
[3:54:57.160 --> 3:55:01.160]  who think they're one of these big giant Tyrannosaurus, New World Order demons.
[3:55:01.160 --> 3:55:05.160]  No, no, you're not part of the millions dead and the power and the darkness.
[3:55:05.160 --> 3:55:10.160]  You're just like kind of a slimy maggot grease for the New World Order system.
[3:55:10.160 --> 3:55:17.160]  Okay, scum. Let's go ahead and play some more of this Marine captain who was in private industry when I met him here,
[3:55:17.160 --> 3:55:22.160]  but he gave me all the documents about how they were engaged in these illegal activities against the U.S. citizenry. Here it is.
[3:55:22.160 --> 3:55:30.160]  Okay. I started out at Join the Marines, tested real high on the ASVAB, which is the Armed Forces Vocational Attitude Battery.
[3:55:30.160 --> 3:55:40.160]  I did real well in that and it was an MP5800 military police. From that, I was sent over to various duty stations.
[3:55:40.160 --> 3:55:49.160]  I started interested in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint military police and civilian police exercises.
[3:55:49.160 --> 3:55:57.160]  We've seen the airport training all across the country, the black helicopters, the special forces in cities.
[3:55:57.160 --> 3:56:05.160]  And it seems like it's been ratcheted up in the last five years from just basic training to actual live fire in city streets.
[3:56:05.160 --> 3:56:10.160]  What type of relationship did you have with law enforcement when you were in the Marine Corps?
[3:56:10.160 --> 3:56:12.160]  Very cohesive. A lot of interaction.
[3:56:12.160 --> 3:56:27.160]  1988 and 1989, like I told you prior, I helped assist in three search warrants. A lot of entry team operations, giving civilian law enforcement advice and critiquing how they're doing that,
[3:56:27.160 --> 3:56:41.160]  to rape such as crack houses or supposed terrorist organizations as far as multiple entry points of a home, whether it be through the roof, the windows in front door, or a combination of all at the same time.
[3:56:41.160 --> 3:56:54.160]  So you were actively, as a member of the United States Marine Corps, active duty, out with civilian law enforcement serving search warrants to homes?
[3:56:54.160 --> 3:57:02.160]  That's great. There weren't missions that were called exercises, but it was actual with real, what we call combatants, real life.
[3:57:02.160 --> 3:57:14.160]  It was the real deal, helping execute search warrants. Late 80s, I've actually been on point with an MP5, and I was not in a police uniform.
[3:57:14.160 --> 3:57:21.160]  I'm not a police flak vest on and a police jacket and black BDUs.
[3:57:21.160 --> 3:57:24.160]  I think you're obviously drug dealers.
[3:57:24.160 --> 3:57:25.160]  One, maybe.
[3:57:25.160 --> 3:57:28.160]  What were the other raids concerning?
[3:57:28.160 --> 3:57:37.160]  Pawn shop owner. One was a pawn shop owner, and the other was for a joint working with ATF.
[3:57:37.160 --> 3:57:49.160]  As a member of the Marine Corps, David, you're telling us you raided a civilian business with the BATF going after guns?
[3:57:49.160 --> 3:57:51.160]  It was the business owner's home.
[3:57:51.160 --> 3:57:53.160]  Oh, the business owner's home.
[3:57:53.160 --> 3:58:02.160]  Okay, good job, John. Good job, Bob. Good job to my whole team. Trey, Eddie, on the producing. Thanks to all the guests, everybody else.
[3:58:02.160 --> 3:58:10.160]  So, illegally, secretly, 89 Marines raiding gun shops, gun homes, gun owners' homes.
[3:58:10.160 --> 3:58:14.160]  Okay, you saw New Orleans. You know what they want to do. You know what they're trying to do.
[3:58:14.160 --> 3:58:17.160]  These Marine Corps drills are to take over your town. They will be arresting citizens.
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