diff --git a/src/components/MessagesList/MessagesList.vue b/src/components/MessagesList/MessagesList.vue
index 2797002c4b7..1ca0603af13 100644
--- a/src/components/MessagesList/MessagesList.vue
+++ b/src/components/MessagesList/MessagesList.vue
@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ import TransitionWrapper from '../UIShared/TransitionWrapper.vue'
 
 import { useDocumentVisibility } from '../../composables/useDocumentVisibility.ts'
 import { useIsInCall } from '../../composables/useIsInCall.js'
-import { ATTENDEE, CHAT, CONVERSATION } from '../../constants.js'
+import { ATTENDEE, CHAT, CONVERSATION, MESSAGE } from '../../constants.js'
 import { EventBus } from '../../services/EventBus.ts'
 import { useChatExtrasStore } from '../../stores/chatExtras.js'
 import { debugTimer } from '../../utils/debugTimer.ts'
@@ -670,9 +670,10 @@ export default {
 						}
 						this.$store.dispatch('setFirstKnownMessageId', { token, id: startingMessageId })
 						this.$store.dispatch('setLastKnownMessageId', { token, id: startingMessageId })
-
+						// If MESSAGE.CHAT_BEGIN_ID we need to get the context from the beginning
+						// using 0 as the API does not support negative values
 						// Get chat messages before last read message and after it
-						await this.getMessageContext(token, startingMessageId)
+						await this.getMessageContext(token, startingMessageId !== MESSAGE.CHAT_BEGIN_ID ? startingMessageId : 0)
 					} catch (exception) {
 						console.debug(exception)
 						// Request was cancelled, stop getting preconditions and restore initial state
diff --git a/src/constants.js b/src/constants.js
index 384bb111fd8..70bc1e9db4e 100644
--- a/src/constants.js
+++ b/src/constants.js
@@ -129,6 +129,11 @@ export const ATTENDEE = {
 	CHANGELOG_BOT_ID: 'changelog',
 }
 
+export const MESSAGE = {
+	CHAT_BEGIN_ID: -2,
+	CHAT_MIGRATION_ID: -1,
+}
+
 export const PARTICIPANT = {
 	CALL_FLAG: {
 		DISCONNECTED: 0,
diff --git a/src/store/messagesStore.js b/src/store/messagesStore.js
index 885d7627edf..9eb625a6276 100644
--- a/src/store/messagesStore.js
+++ b/src/store/messagesStore.js
@@ -12,6 +12,7 @@ import {
 	ATTENDEE,
 	CHAT,
 	CONVERSATION,
+	MESSAGE,
 } from '../constants.js'
 import { hasTalkFeature } from '../services/CapabilitiesManager.ts'
 import { fetchNoteToSelfConversation } from '../services/conversationsService.js'
@@ -967,7 +968,7 @@ const actions = {
 			}
 			context.dispatch('processMessage', { token, message })
 			newestKnownMessageId = Math.max(newestKnownMessageId, message.id)
-			oldestKnownMessageId = Math.min(oldestKnownMessageId, message.id)
+			oldestKnownMessageId = oldestKnownMessageId === 0 ? message.id : Math.min(oldestKnownMessageId, message.id)
 
 			if (message.id <= messageId
 				&& message.systemMessage !== 'reaction'
@@ -979,7 +980,8 @@ const actions = {
 			}
 		})
 
-		if (!context.getters.getFirstKnownMessageId(token) || oldestKnownMessageId < context.getters.getFirstKnownMessageId(token)) {
+		if (!context.getters.getFirstKnownMessageId(token) || oldestKnownMessageId < context.getters.getFirstKnownMessageId(token)
+			|| context.getters.getFirstKnownMessageId(token) === MESSAGE.CHAT_BEGIN_ID) {
 			context.dispatch('setFirstKnownMessageId', {
 				token,
 				id: oldestKnownMessageId,