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Future development to support RF >3.2 #413
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Hi, RED does not support RF 4.0 yet |
@michalanglart you basically have to maintain two things. first: elements are now all packet into on node. (so /keywordspec/keywords/kw) Arguments are not longer a list of string representations. they are now structured. But you can just access the //arguments/arg[repr] attribute. It will contain same content that was before in
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Thanks René @Snooz82! I had a look. It does not seem complicated too much although we cannot just change our existing implementation as we did between version 1 and 2 of specifications as the structure changes too much. Since we want to support both 3.x and 4.0 we need to provide two implementations and hide them behind the interfaces so that they would behave the same from the perspective of the code which uses that. |
Hi both, |
Ok, sure. We can provide you with the test builds |
Hello guys, any news for supporting RF 4.0 ? |
Hi, I hope the support to some extent should be possible probably around the time RF 4.0 would be released. However I'm not sure yet about handling all the new syntax. |
Can't tell now, sorry. We're very busy with other projects currently. We should have some time for RED in coming weeks and some work was already done for RF 4.0 but as of now I don't know yet how much work is needed. |
Robot Framework 4.0 is a new major release with lot of big new feature, Please Make RED supporting RF 4.0 ASAP |
UP You made an excellent work on RED guys, it's really got the best UX for Robot. |
UPDATE: Robot Framework 4.0 was officially released 11.3.2021: @michalanglart : I believe there be a few changes for RED in order to be compatible with RF 4.0. Is there anything the community can do to help? Post it here and you might get support. |
We are stuck on robotframework 3.2.2 and hopefully RED will support 4.0 soon. Cheers. |
+1 add RED support for RF 4.0 🙏 🙏 |
+1 add RED support for RF 4.0. RED is such a useful tool, but RF 4 brings a ton of useful features so upgrading is quite appealing. |
+1 Can't wait for RED support with RF4 |
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+1 Add RED Support with RF4 Please. |
+1 Add RED Support with RF4 Please. |
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i hope RED development started already. Expecting the fixed version of RED sooner so that we can move to make use of RF 4.x |
Same here. |
Can someone from the development team please tell us the current status and when will Red be supported |
For those of you following this issue, if your needs are urgent then you may wish to explore alternatives until RF4 compatible RED becomes available. One popular alternative is Robot Framework Language Server which is available as an extension in VS Code: |
How can we help to make RED available for RBFW 4? |
Also from my side please keep-alive RED. |
@Snooz82 Yes, it is in deep hibernation for now. In past we had few persons working on it full time. Now from old team there are just 2 of us still in company - myself and our great tester @joanna-may . We were assigned however with different projects which occupies us 100% or even more (in my case much more). I do like this project and I would be happy to work on it but the reality is that I simply do no have time for it now. Having said that: we found a person which should be able to spent some time with RED - but firstly needs to be introduced and needs to explore the code a little bit. |
I moved all my work from eclipse and Red to Pycharm IDE. Everything works
better now
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@Snooz82 <https://github.com/Snooz82> I agree with you. I was trying to
move to any other IDE but failed, don't see anything but only RED))) I'm
ready to contribute but keep this huge project alive. It will be a great
failure for us, for our community, if we'll lose such tool, IMO.
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We all cross fingers!!! Good luck and waiting for any news from you guys ! |
While I agree that RED had his value in the past, when we had no other good enough alternatives, I don't agree that today this will be a big loss for our community. I agree it is difficult to switch to another way of working after many years, but this is just an IDE and it is not justifiable to use old RF 3.x just for the sake of using a familiar IDE, when you can switch to RF 4.x and use a more modern IDE, like Visual Studio Code or Pycharm as you like, i.e. any IDE supported by Robocorp company. |
Any updates team? |
The scope of this issue has expanded from when it was originally created. Would it be possible to change the title (something like |
@michalanglart Hi Michal! Do you have any ETA, if exist, to starting to work on supporting RF4 and above? Please!!!!! |
Hello. I still cannot offer any timeline. I'm currently not involved however only some limited work was done recently and it was not yet about the changes in the code but rather setting up the environments for building & automated tests. I'll let you know once it would be clear what's in the future with RED |
Any updates @michalanglart |
Hi Michal! What do you think about sharing your tasks to our community? I'm sure we have here a lot of professional programmers that can contribute to our RED, what do you think? Perhaps this is our last chance to push it from that dead point) |
Install Microsoft Visual Studio and try Robot Framework with it. You will
be astonished! You will be blown away!
Furthermore, you don't even want to ever revert to Eclipse.
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… Hello. I still cannot offer any timeline. I'm currently not involved
however only some limited work was done recently and it was not yet about
the changes in the code but rather setting up the environments for building
& automated tests.
I'll let you know once it would be clear what's in the future with RED
Hi Michal! What do you think about sharing your tasks to our community?
I'm sure we have here a lot of professional programmers that can contribute
to our RED, what do you think? Perhaps this is our last chance to push it
from that dead point)
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I really tried MVS but did not find two mandatory things to me (PyCharm and Eclipse have those features):
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Dont use Visual Studio. use VSCode! |
I use Eclipse, and am sad that this plugin doesn't work with current Robot versions. My workaround for now is to use https://github.com/NitorCreations/RobotFramework-EclipseIDE which at least gives me syntax highlighting. It doesn't give an outline, definition lookup, debugging, or much of anything else, but at least I can read the files. |
I'm so sorry that's what I meant:
VISUAL Studio CODE!!!!
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But the principe remains the same...
Once you try you will see it is so much BETTER.
Op do 22 sep. 2022 18:04 schreef avancil ***@***.***>:
… I use Eclipse, and am sad that this plugin doesn't work with current Robot
versions. My workaround for now is to use
https://github.com/NitorCreations/RobotFramework-EclipseIDE which at
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lookup, debugging, or much of anything else, but at least I can read the
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we can pause execution in between in red but vs code i don't see that option @valentijnpeters |
Visual studio code is i=not recognizing variable outside robot file , like if variable is defined in python file ,VScode is not able to recognise it |
you need the extension just like RED is the Extension for...
look it up. once you get used to VScode with RobotFramework you probably
don't want to go back.
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… Visual studio code is i=not recognizing variable outside robot file , like
if variable is defined in python file ,VScode is not able to recognise it
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Sorry @Snooz82 and @valentijnpeters , but in my opinion VSCode with RobotCode extension is not better than RED. I tried more other Eclipse, PyCharme and VSCode extension, but there is one problem where they all fail:
Keyword1 arg1=sthing arg2=Keyword2 So I use RED for coding and PyCharm for running :/ |
@michalanglart or anybody else, is there at least small chance to update to newest Robot framework? Please, this is great tool you created and would be really sad to leave it. |
Please read the former messages.
In short:
RED was created by a team of developers
That team was dissambled, it doesn't excist anymore.
If you want a red new version then you need money (and connecties to a team
of developers willing to (re)write it)
I liked Eclipse + RED as well 😞
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… @michalanglart <https://github.com/michalanglart> or anybody else, is
there at least small chance to update to newest Robot framework? Please,
this is great tool you created and would be really sad to leave it.
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I don't think the project will be actively developed within company anytime in the future unfortunately. |
The only way is by crowdfunding
I would certainly fund a bit by the way
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… @michalanglart <https://github.com/michalanglart> or anybody else, is
there at least small chance to update to newest Robot framework? Please,
this is great tool you created and would be really sad to leave it.
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one advice: forget about RED, JUst use vscode together with the robotcode
extension and you are future proof.
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… The only way is by crowdfunding
I would certainly fund a bit by the way
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> @michalanglart <https://github.com/michalanglart> or anybody else, is
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Dear reader,
I try to use RobotFramework 4.0b1 and latest RED, but unfortunately it seems that it doesn’t load the Builtin-Libraries.
E.g. it writes “unknown keyword ‘log’”.
Unchanged workspace with e.g. 3.2.1 RobotFramework works without issue.
I’m happy for any idea how to solve this issue because I would like to stay with the 4.0 version.
Thank you,
Thomas
This is related to:
https://forum.robotframework.org/t/red-doesnt-find-builtin-libraries-with-robotframework-4-0b1/1100/3?u=thpoll
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