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Consolidate documentation #41

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carlossvg opened this issue Jun 9, 2022 · 20 comments
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Consolidate documentation #41

carlossvg opened this issue Jun 9, 2022 · 20 comments
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carlossvg commented Jun 9, 2022

ros-realtime.github.io should be the only documentation website for the RTWG docs. Currently, there are different documents in separated github pages. We should consolidate all the documents in a single place so it's easier to find them.

@carlossvg carlossvg added the documentation Improvements or additions to documentation label Jun 9, 2022
@carlossvg carlossvg moved this to Todo in RTWG roadmap Jun 9, 2022
@carlossvg carlossvg moved this from Todo to In Progress in RTWG roadmap Jun 10, 2022
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JanStaschulat commented Jan 30, 2023

Documentation at docs.ros.org

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Tutorial/Building-Realtime-rt_preempt-kernel-for-ROS-2.html outdated link - same as below
Tutorials/Miscellaneous/Building-Realtime-rt_preempt-kernel-for-ROS-2.html
Tutorials/Demos/Real-Time-Programming.html
How-To-Guides/Building-ROS-2-with-Tracing-Instrumentation.html
How-To-Guides/Installing-on-Raspberry-Pi.html
How-To-Guides/Using-callback-groups.html
Concepts/About-Executors.html

Decide on where to place documentation:

  • Tutorial (more in-depth description)
  • How-To-Guides (step-by-step description how to implement something specific )

Documentation at ros-realtime.github.io

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ros-realtime.github.io/Guides
ros-realtime.github.io/Benchmarks
ros-realtime.github.io/Subprojects
ros-realtime.github.io/Related-Projects
ros-realtime.github.io/Resources

My proposal: copy&paste most of this documentation to some page on docs.ros.org.

Other documentation:

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Executor Workshop add link to some page
Introduction to Real-time Systems

Documentation Work-In-Progress

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ros.docs.org/How-To-Guides/Developing-a-real-time-application

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 8, 2023

Grand theory of documentation: https://diataxis.fr/
What is the difference between a Tuturial and a How-To-Guide? https://diataxis.fr/tutorials-how-to/#tutorials-how-to

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 8, 2023

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 9, 2023

Proposal for restructured real-time documentation at docs.ros.org:
The links are pointing to existing pages on docs.ros.org or other places. These documentation pages might need some update.

Tutorials

How-To-Guides

Concepts

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 9, 2023

Updated the Real-Time Documentation for ROS 2 document.

Please review and add further existing pages in the table in section "Current status". Some items in the new proposed structure contain already a link to an existing pages.

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christophebedard commented Feb 9, 2023

I wouldn't merge these two. Keeping the "Building ROS 2 with Tracing Instrumentation" as a standalone guide allows us to link to just that from anywhere. We could of course mention the other guide at the end as a logical follow-up guide.

Edit: also, we want to enable instrumentation by default (ros2/ros2#1177), so the first guide will eventually not be required in order to follow the second guide.

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I think Pendulum Demo and Real-time Application configuration could be merged into one (heavily-rewritten) tutorial. The Pendulum could serve as the hello world program for real-time.

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 13, 2023

Thank you very much for your active discussion in todays RTWG meeting. I updated our proposal for a consolidated real-time documentation. Next step would be, that we create and/or update the pages in our fork of ros2_documentation.

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JanStaschulat commented Feb 16, 2023

Made an initial commit in the branch update-real-time in our fork of the ros2_documentation repository. I just created the subsection "Real-Time" and moved the existing pages there. Also added one page in Concepts section.

I would propose, to first come up with a good outline in Develop-Real-Time-Application.

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JanStaschulat commented Apr 8, 2023

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@nightduck I think you mentioned during a RTWG meeting a few weeks ago that you were working on porting/moving the "How to use ros2_tracing to trace and analyze an application" tutorial to docs.ros.org. What is the status? I can help.

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JanStaschulat commented May 15, 2023

Hi @christophebedard . We have not created any page yet. The idea is to have a seperate page about "ros2 tracing" outside the Tutorial/Advanced/RealTime tab. So, from my perspective, you can just go ahead. Any help very much appreciated.

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@christophebedard sorry for the late response, I was at a conference. The page has been ported, but we're not submitting a pull request until we've finished other modifications we're making. You can track our progress by monitoring that branch and the viewing the document @JanStaschulat linked Feb 9th:

Updated the Real-Time Documentation for ROS 2 document.

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but we're not submitting a pull request until we've finished other modifications we're making.

The "How to use ros2_tracing to trace and analyze an application" tutorial doesn't really need to wait until everything else has been ported (it's better to make smaller PRs instead of a single big one), but sure, that's fine.

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JanStaschulat commented May 16, 2023

@christophebedard , Yes, I agree. As the ros2_tracing tutorial will not be part of the Advanced/Tutorial/Realtime tab, you can go ahead and update the documentation in a separate PR.

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@nightduck do you want to do it, or should I?

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nightduck commented May 16, 2023 via email

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@JanStaschulat I didn't find a PR to add my comments so I will post them here in the meanwhile.

The real-time setup is tested by counting the number of context switches of other kernel processes.

I would rephrase this. It sounds like we count the context switches for other processes different than the example.

It should be zero for the real-time callback.

I would clarify it is expected to see some involuntary context switches even with a real-time priority. There might be other threads with higher priority or interrupts preempting the real-time callback execution.

The complete source file of this tutorial is available here.

The link seems to be broken.

Then, we assign to the realtime_thread the priority, that was passed by the command line argument. We are not assigning any scheduling parameter to the default_thread, so that the Publisher and the non real-time Subscription will be processed with default Linux settings.

We should clarify this tutorial is specific for Linux.

Note, that this construction of the thread function calls the spin()-function of the Executor. That implies that all callbacks that are managed by the Executor will be processed by this thread and regarding the execution timing "inherit" the scheduling policy of this thread.

I would clarify what we mean here with execution timing. Also, the term inherit could be misleading, it could be confusing when talking about middleware thread which could inherit the parent's thread scheduling attributes.

We should probably mention what happens to those threads in this example. In this particular thread only the thread we create to spin the executor will have real-time priority while the middleware threads won't.

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JanStaschulat commented Jun 23, 2023

@carlossvg (CC @christophebedard @nightduck @razr) Thank you for your review comments. I updated the tutorial accordingly. I created a pull request ros2/ros2_documentation#3756 but put it in DRAFT mode. I still need to write the tutorial with callack groups and I'd like to ask Andrei to update the operating systems tutorial.

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