Prātiśākhya ls references #41

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T16:43:16Z

This issue aims to provide feedback re this comment in #37.

Here is what MW says about Prātiśākhya:

prāti—śākhya n. (fr. -śākham) a treatise on the peculiar euphonic combination and pronunciation of letters which prevails in different Śākhās of the Vedas (there are 4 P° one for the Śākala-śākhā of the RV. ; two for particular Śākhās of the black and white Yajur-vedas, and one for a Śākhā of the AV. ; cf. IW. 149, 150 )

The general objective here is to generate improvements in

pwg.txt in <ls> markup
pwgbib_input.txt which is the table used for generating tooltips in PWG displays.

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funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T17:25:26Z

Inventory

There are 9 lines in pwgbib_input pertaining to Prātiśākhya.
In the table, the 'count' is the number of instances in pwg.txt of <ls> elements that begin with the abbreviation.
E.g. there are 508 instances of <ls>V. PRĀT. in pwg.txt.

count	code	abbrev	tooltip
508	1.031	AV. PRĀT.	AV. PRĀT. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zum ATHARVAVEDA. Citirt nach Adhyāyaund Sūtra. Hdschr. Siehe ROTH'S Einl. z. NIRUKTA, S. XLVII.
1110	1.264	ṚV. PRĀT.	ṚV. PRĀT. oder PRĀTIŚ. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zun ṚGVEDA, citirt nach Paṭala und Versen. Hdschr. S. ROTH in der Einl z. NIR. S. XLVII.
92	1.289	TAITT. PRĀT.	TAITT. PRĀT. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zur TAITTIRĪYASAM̃HITĀ. S. ROTH in derEinl. z. NIR. S. XLVII.
714	1.329	VS. PRĀT.	VS. PRĀT. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zur VĀJASANEYISAM̃HITĀ, citirt nach Adhyāyaund Sūtra. Hdschr. S. ROTH in der Einl. z. NIR. S. XLVI.
131	c.1712	TS. PRĀT.	TS. PRĀT. = ? [Cologne Addition]
2	1.289a	TAITT. PR.	TAITT. PR. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zur TAITTIRĪYASAM̃HITĀ. ? [Cologne Addition]
215	1.242	PRĀT.	PRĀT. oder PRĀTIŚ. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA.
11	1.242a	PRĀTIŚ.	PRĀT. oder PRĀTIŚ. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA.
2	c.1402	PRĀTIŚĀKHYA	PRĀTIŚĀKHYA = ? [Cologne Addition]

The total is 2785.

In addition to these <ls>abbrev instances, there are 71 other cases where the PRĀT string occurs, but not in the context of the abbreviations above. These generally appear to be cases where the
<ls> markup needs revision. The lines of pwg.txt are
prat_err.txt

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T17:34:57Z

TS. PRĀT. and TAITT. PR.

These two appear to be abbreviation variants of the listed abbreviation TAITT. PRĀT.

The simplest solution is to modify pwgbib_input for these two abbreviations, giving each of them
the same tooltip as TAITT. PRĀT. (but with the [Cologne addition] remaining).

NEW TOOLTIP for TS. PRĀT. and TAITT. PR. 
TAITT. PRĀT. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zur TAITTIRĪYASAM̃HITĀ. S. ROTH in derEinl. z. NIR. S. XLVII. [Cologne Addition]

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T17:45:46Z

PRĀTIŚ. and PRĀT. abbreviations

The link in #37 noticed an example in pwg.txt like <ls>ṚV.</ls> <ls>PRĀTIŚ. 3, 18.</ls> , where the single reference is wrongly marked as two references. 10 of the 11 <ls>PRĀTIŚ. are like this.

This needs to be corrected to ṚV. PRĀTIŚ. 3, 18.`, and similarly for the others.

Note that we currently have no tooltip for abbreviation ṚV. PRĀTIŚ.
We should add an item to pwgbib_input.txt with tooltip identical to that for ṚV. PRĀT.

abbrev =
ṚV. PRĀTIŚ. 
tooltip = 
ṚV. PRĀT. oder PRĀTIŚ. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zun ṚGVEDA, citirt nach Paṭala und Versen. Hdschr. S. ROTH in der Einl z. NIR. S. XLVII.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T17:51:15Z

11th case of PRĀTIŚ.

tugryAvfD

This is not a specific literary source reference. I think we need take no action here. Leave it marked
as <ls>PRĀTIŚ.</ls> with the tooltip as in table above.

gasyoun · 2021-08-02T18:05:58Z

The total is 2785.

So many. The Rigveda one is in a corpus like format, I should play with it, if you could think of links, Jim.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T20:12:28Z

PRĀTIŚĀKHYA

These two instances seem to be also (as the 11th PRĀTIŚ case) not specific references. In pwg.txt,

Under headword udaya
<div n="2">— e) 
in den <ls>PRĀTIŚĀKHYA</ls> und ein Mal bei <ls>P. (8. 4, 67)</ls> 
{%das nachfolgende Wort, der nachfolgende Laut%}, = {#para#} 
<ls>P. 8, 4, 67,</ls> 
<ls>Sch. -</ls> <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 2, 16. 3, 6. 4, 1. 2.</ls> 
{#udaye#} so v. a. {#udaye vatarmAnAH#} {%nachfolgend%} 
<ls>22.</ls> am Ende eines <lex>adj.</lex> comp.: {#ikArodaya#} {%ein%} {#i#} {%zum folgenden Buchstaben habend%} 
<ls>?2, 6. 7. 5, 5. VS. PRĀT. 3, 84. 81. 4, 6. 16. 140. AV. PRĀT. 3, 65. Schol. zu 3, 27.</ls> Häufig am Ende eines <lex>adj.</lex> comp. in der Bed. {%Folge%}: {#dAkzyaM duHKaM suKodayam#} {%Leid, auf das Freude folgt%}, 
<ls>Spr. 5246.</ls> {#dozAH - vyasanodayAH#} {%Missgeschick im Gefolge habend%} 
<ls>3169.</ls> 

Under headword anunAsika
<div n="2"> a) von nasal getrübten Vocalen oder Consonanten, wie sie durch gewisse Lautverbindungen entstehen, z. B. das {#la#}, in welches sich {#ma#} und {#na#} vor folgendem {#la#} verwandeln. Diese <is>Anunāsika</is> sollen nach den Vorschriften der 
<ls>PRĀTIŚĀKHYA</ls> mit den vereinigten Organen von Nase und Mund hervorgebracht werden, während die nasalen Consonanten und der <is>Anusvāra</is> nur der Nase zugetheilt werden. {#muKanAsikAkaraRo 'nunAsikaH#} 
<ls>VS. PRĀT. 1, 76.</ls>
{#nakArasya loparePozmaBAve pUrvastatsTAnAdanunAsikaH svaraH#} 
<ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 4, 35. 3.</ls> <ls>AV. PRĀT. 1, 27. 36.</ls> <ls>VS. PRĀT. 4, 3. 13.</ls> <ls>TAITT. PRĀT. 1, 4.</ls> 
{#muKanAsikAvacano 'nunAsikaH#} <ls>P. 1, 1, 8. 3, 2. 6, 1, 126. 8, 3, 2. 4, 57.</ls>

In contrast to PRĀTIŚ., PRĀTIŚĀKHYA is not even an abbreviation. Thus, we could

remove the <ls> markup in pwg.txt
remove the associated 'tooltip' in pwgbib_input.txt.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T20:54:29Z

PRĀT. abbreviation (part 1)

The table above shows 215 of these <ls>PRĀT. in pwg.txt.
First group of subcases which need to be handled separately.
PRAT needs to be joined to prior <ls> in pwg.txt.
The resulting ls abbreviation is already in pwgbib_input.txt.

<ls>TS.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls> -> <ls>TS. PRĀT. ...</ls> (147 cases) .
<ls>ṚV.</ls><ls>PRĀT. ...</ls> -> <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. ...</ls> (4 cases)
<ls>AV.</ls><ls>PRĀT. ...</ls> -> <ls>AV. PRĀT. ...</ls> (3 cases)
<ls>VS.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls> -> <ls>VS. PRĀT. ...</ls> (1 case)
<ls>TAITT.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls> -> <ls>TAITT. PRĀT. ...</ls> (2 cases)

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T21:05:24Z

VP. PRĀT. ? (Help needed)

There are four cases like the above, but with VP. as the preceding; e.g.,
<ls>VP.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. 3, 115.</ls> -> <ls>VP. PRĀT. 3, 115.</ls>

These are questionable as VP. is abbreviation for VIṢṆUPURĀṆA; since VIṢṆUPURĀṆA is not part of Vedas,
I would not expect there to be a Prātiśākhya for it (based on MW's definition shown above).

The four instances occur under headwords DrajImant, SUGana, sumatIvfD, surAma

Should the above change (to <ls>VP. PRĀT. ) be made ?
If so, we need additional entry in pwgbib_input.txt such as
- abbrev: VP. PRĀT.
- tooltip: VP. PRĀT. = PRĀTIŚĀKHYA zum VIṢṆUPURĀṆA [Cologne Addition]

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T21:26:43Z

case under urobfhatI

<L>68565<pc>5-1202<k1>urobfhatI<k2>urobfhatI
{#urobfhatI#}¦ 
? Z. 1 lies <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 16, 32</ls> st. <ls>PRĀT. 16, 7</ls> und füge <ls>Ind. St. 8, 91. 94. 96. 147. 243.</ls> fg. hinzu.
<LEND>

This is within the vol1-5 VN (corrections and additions) appearing at the end of vol. 5.

Clearly, here <ls>PRĀT. is a shortening of ṚV. PRĀT. . We can leave unchanged in pwg.txt.

SPELLING ERROR NOTICED:

The above is a correction under headword urobfhatI.
However, there is no (other) headword.
Instead we have

<L>12499<pc>1-1002<k1>urovfhatI<k2>urovfhatI
{#urovfhatI#}¦ ({#uras + bf°#}) <lex>f.</lex> N. eines Metrums 
<ls>CHANDAS 5.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. 16, 7.</ls> <ls>COLEBR. Misc. Ess. II, 152.</ls>
<LEND>

This looks to be a print error in PWG, by

alphabetical ordering preserved with 'b', not with 'v' in pwg.
MW has 'urobfhatI'

We should change L=12499 to 'urobfhatI'.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T21:37:26Z

Case under kAra (homonym 1)

<div n="2">— b) {%Laut, flexionsloses Wort%}, insbes. {%eine Interjection%}: {#akAra#} {%der Laut%} {#a, kakAra#} 
u.s.w. <ls>P. 3, 3, 108, <is>Vārtt</is>. 3.</ls> <ls>PRĀT.</ls> <ls>M. 2, 76. 125.</ls> <ls>R. 3, 43, 35.</ls> {#naHkAra#} 
<ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 8, 21.</ls> {#evakAra#} 
<ls>P. 5, 3, 58,</ls> 
<ls>Sch. 6, 1, 80,</ls> 
<ls>Sch.</ls> {#tukAra#} 
<ls>DURGAD.</ls> zu <ls>VOP. 2, 45.</ls> Vgl. {#oMkAra, PUtkAra, vazawkAra, svaDAkAra, svAhAkAra, hantakAra, hAhAkAra, hiMkAra, hUMkAra#} u. s. w. — Hierher gehören noch folg. Bedd. der Lexicogrr.:

My guess is that no change is needed here. PRĀT. is being used as abbreviation for PRĀTIŚĀKHYA, with no specific literary source reference.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-02T21:51:09Z

6 non-specific `<ls>PRĀT.</ls>`

These don't need any change in pwg.txt. They are non-specific uses of PRĀT. as an abbreviation for PRĀTIŚĀKHYA.
They occur under these headwords:
anehas , apnaHsTa , kar (hom 1 Page2-0093) , naS , miTu , vEyAska

funderburkjim · 2021-08-03T02:08:06Z

There remain 43 unexamined cases of <ls>PRĀT. x, y</ls> specific PRĀT. instances.
In pwg.txt, these are all at the beginning of a line. Spot checks show that sometimes the preceding line ends in,
for instance, <ls>AV.</ls>, which should be combined with PRĀT. Next step is to examine these 43 cases individually.

Andhrabharati · 2021-08-03T05:32:28Z

This issue aims to provide feedback re this comment in #37.

Here is what MW says about Prātiśākhya:

prāti—śākhya n. (fr. -śākham) a treatise on the peculiar euphonic combination and pronunciation of letters which prevails in different Śākhās of the Vedas (there are 4 P° one for the Śākala-śākhā of the RV. ; two for particular Śākhās of the black and white Yajur-vedas, and one for a Śākhā of the AV. ; cf. IW. 149, 150 )

@funderburkjim,
As I have read somewhere that you wanted to learn more about Sanskrit Language and Literature, thought I should share this piece of info with you.

There exists a Prātiśākhya for Samaveda as well.

Have a look at this-
https://archive.org/details/rktantram/page/n1

Andhrabharati · 2021-08-03T06:03:34Z

VP. PRĀT. ? (Help needed)

The four instances occur under headwords DrajImant, SUGana, sumatIvfD, surAma

DrajImant: just look at the prev. entry (Draji)
SUGana: just look at the prev. entry (SUkfta)
sumatIvfD: Look at the full text under the entry- <ls>VS. PRĀT.</ls> <3,96>. %des Gebets sich freuend/% <ls>VS.</ls> <22,12>.<LEND> (this is from my file)
[There is no such internal 'proof' (within PWG) for the surAma entry. But it can be seen at https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.489120/page/n293/mode/1up]

As you had correctly guessed, these all are not VP. PRĀT., but just VS. PRĀT.

Andhrabharati · 2021-08-03T09:49:45Z

PRĀT. abbreviation (part 1)

The table above shows 215 of these <ls>PRĀT. in pwg.txt.
First group of subcases which need to be handled separately.
PRAT needs to be joined to prior in pwg.txt.
The resulting ls abbreviation is already in pwgbib_input.txt.
* `<ls>TS.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls>`  -> `<ls>TS. PRĀT. ...</ls>`  (147 cases) .

* `<ls>ṚV.</ls><ls>PRĀT. ...</ls>`  -> `<ls>ṚV. PRĀT. ...</ls>`  (4 cases)

* `<ls>AV.</ls><ls>PRĀT. ...</ls>`  -> `<ls>AV. PRĀT. ...</ls>`  (3 cases)

* `<ls>VS.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls>` -> `<ls>VS. PRĀT. ...</ls>`  (1 case)

* `<ls>TAITT.</ls> <ls>PRĀT. ...</ls>` -> `<ls>TAITT. PRĀT. ...</ls>`  (2 cases)

I take this as a response to my #37 (comment)

You may act on the f2 and M2 cases (reported in this comment) as well.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-03T17:36:40Z

VP. PRĀT.

Thanks for researching these. Am changing to VS. and marking as print changes.

gasyoun · 2021-08-03T18:42:05Z

PRĀTIŚĀKHYA is not even an abbreviation. Thus, we could

Still it's not a usual word as well.

Andhrabharati · 2021-08-03T18:48:50Z

In my working, all such are "treated" as "literary sources" (ls), whether occurring in abbr. form or in full form.

And the person names (writers/compilers/translators/editors/...) are treated as "authors", and are part of the literary stuff.

Ref: sanskrit-lexicon/PWG#41

Ref: #41

funderburkjim · 2021-08-06T02:34:50Z

work finished

In addition to changes noted above, considerable time was spent refining the 'ls' markup, so references to the various pratishakyas will be linkable if and when we develop a link target.

The f6c648f link above shows the actual changes made to the pwg.txt digitization.

A precursor to this diff, is the file changes.txt which was applied (via updateByLine.py) to the prior
version of pwg.txt to get the revised version.

A couple of changes were made to the ls tooltip file for pwg; see commit.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-06T02:37:18Z

Help wanted

An attempt was made to get a list of cases that appear problematic; there are 27 of these in changes_todo.txt.

Request others to examine these todo cases, with an eye to

understanding the author's intent
Then, improving the markup to better correspond to the author's intent.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-06T03:00:57Z

What is refining the 'ls' markup?

By this phrase is primarily intended dealing with multiple references; see the examples of inferred references in recent work with Rig Veda reference in pwg.

Very similar ideas apply here with the various pratishakya literary source references.

For all of these pratishakya references, the number of parameters was taken to be 2 (in contrast to 3 parameters for pwg).
Many examples are found in changes.txt (see link above). For instance

TWO 2-PARAMETER REFERENCES
; <L>64487<pc>5-1021<k1>aBiprAya {ṚV. PRĀT. 1}
; ṚV. PRĀT. 4, 28. 14, 11.  STATUS=OK
629747 old <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 4, 28. 14, 11.</ls> {%Erscheinung, Phantom%}: {#tatra divyAnaBiprAyAndadarSa#} 
;
629747 new <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 4, 28.</ls> <ls n="ṚV. PRĀT.">14, 11.</ls> {%Erscheinung, Phantom%}: {#tatra divyAnaBiprAyAndadarSa#} 

A 2-PARAMETER REFERENCE FOLLOWED BY A 1-PARAMETER REFERENCE

; <L>69747<pc>5-1254<k1>karaRa {ṚV. PRĀT. 1}
; ṚV. PRĀT. 1, 10. 14  STATUS=M
664617 old <ls>Schol.</ls> zu <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 1, 10. 14</ls> und {#nAmakaraRa#} . 
;
664617 new <ls>Schol.</ls> zu <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 1, 10.</ls> <ls n="ṚV. PRĀT. 1,">14.</ls> und {#nAmakaraRa#} .

And there are many similar and even more lengthy strings of references to be found in changes.txt.

Why?

Currently we have no linkable target for ṚV. PRĀT. , AV. PRĀT. , TS. PRĀT., and VS. PRĀT.
So the added markup for these inferred references has no significant impact on the displays for PWG.

However, when such linkable target(s) become available, this added markup will make the displays more robust in that
the displays will be able to provide separate links for the inferred references. These added links are already available for RV due
to the previous work with RV.

tech note

The Python program changes_remark.py can be adapted for similar markup enhancement for
other literary sources for pwg. The main markup enhancement is done in the remark_pwg function of remark_ls.py.

funderburkjim · 2021-08-06T03:06:45Z

link targets (HELP WANTED)

The only possible link target I found was one for RV. PRAT: https://archive.org/details/pratisakhyarigv00sarmgoog/page/n7/mode/2up.

I don't know how to map pwg references to pages in this text.

For instance, what page contains <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 1, 10.</ls> ?

Does anyone have link targets for the other pratishakyas?

funderburkjim · 2021-08-06T03:09:29Z

I should play with it, if you could think of links, Jim.

@gasyoun maybe you could examine how the pwg RV PRAT links map to the pages of the archive org document mentioned above. If we could find the key to the mapping, @sanskritisampada could fill in the details.

Andhrabharati · 2021-08-06T05:16:57Z

link targets (HELP WANTED)

The only possible link target I found was one for RV. PRAT: https://archive.org/details/pratisakhyarigv00sarmgoog/page/n7/mode/2up.

I don't know how to map pwg references to pages in this text.

For instance, what page contains <ls>ṚV. PRĀT. 1, 10.</ls> ?

Does anyone have link targets for the other pratishakyas?

See these-
https://archive.org/search.php?query=taittiriya%20pratisakhya
https://archive.org/search.php?query=vajasaneyi%20pratisakhya
https://archive.org/search.php?query=atharva%20pratisakhya
and you will get few links under each title. You can select one of them as per your liking.

[I had already given the link for Samaveda Pratisakhya earlier, in case it is needed any time.]

gasyoun · 2022-01-28T21:57:29Z

RV PRAT links map to the pages of the archive org document mentioned above

@funderburkjim I'm a big fan of https://sites.google.com/view/rv-pratishakhya

and you will get few links under each title. You can select one of them as per your liking.

@Andhrabharati what is your choice in each of the cases, what exact PDF?

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Inventory

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TS. PRĀT. and TAITT. PR.

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PRĀTIŚ. and PRĀT. abbreviations

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case under urobfhatI

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Case under kAra (homonym 1)

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