adrf ontology is all wrong

[VladimirAlexiev]

• You can't just graft classes from different ontologies, instantiate them and put them into a SKOS concept scheme
• Eg when you say :Dataset a dcat:Dataset, it means that :Dataset is one particular dataset. This cannot be owl:sameAs dbr:Data_set because that's (arguably) the concept of a Dataset.
• Eg when you say :Provider a foaf:Organization, it means :Provider is some specific organization. And it's doubly impossible to say owl:sameAs dbr:Data_publishing because publishing (providing) data is an activity, not an organization.
• prefix : is missing, so it seems to me https://github.com/Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto/blob/master/adrf.ttl is invalid
• https://github.com/Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto/wiki/Vocabulary says "subclassed from" but a (rdf:type) is not subclassing, it's instantiation
• It says "Corpus Subclassed from SKOS:Collection" (even though that's missing from the actual ontology), but skos:Collection has a specific use (ad-hoc collection of Concepts), whereas Corpus is a collection of documents (texts), so you can't do that
• you have two different definitions of :Topic. One is tied to LCSH, which is wrong

It seems to me you are in dire need of some ontology consulting, by someone who knows ontologies for describing:

• machine learning and data science (there are at least 8 I know of)
• datasets (DCAT2 and ADMS are the most important)
• corpora and NLP (NIF and friends)

[Juliaingridlane]

Thank you so much for these very helpful comments. We will review and reply to you shortly Julia Lane Professor, Wagner, NYU and the Coleridge Initiative Cell phone: 646 208 4990 https://coleridgeinitiative.org *From:* Vladimir Alexiev <notifications@github.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 4:04 AM *To:* Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto <adrf-onto@noreply.github.com> *Cc:* Subscribed <subscribed@noreply.github.com> *Subject:* [Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto] this ontology is all wrong (#3) - You can't just graft classes from different ontologies, instantiate them and put them into a SKOS concept scheme - Eg when you say :Dataset a dcat:Dataset, it means that :Dataset is one particular dataset. This cannot be owl:sameAs dbr:Data_set because that's (arguably) the *concept* of a Dataset. - prefix : is missing, so it seems to me https://github.com/Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto/blob/master/adrf.ttl <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Coleridge-2DInitiative_adrf-2Donto_blob_master_adrf.ttl&d=DwMCaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=omwcNBUqPba9pikmkXZXk2bFQ7zxZPhI5OH9dd8lFDA&m=iw0CoAMhezvqaI9d2O1SHWSmJPvEQ6aHD2oc064_QhA&s=tmZbX7lsRBiZgd6d23HUnswmHxPPf3H5Yxaw4BmlAyM&e=> is invalid - https://github.com/Coleridge-Initiative/adrf-onto/wiki/Vocabulary <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Coleridge-2DInitiative_adrf-2Donto_wiki_Vocabulary&d=DwMCaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=omwcNBUqPba9pikmkXZXk2bFQ7zxZPhI5OH9dd8lFDA&m=iw0CoAMhezvqaI9d2O1SHWSmJPvEQ6aHD2oc064_QhA&s=YhnhYAR53usl9O5SBRQiwHGZZ6jsQ3vpSvFfIzBbLPw&e=> says "subclassed from" but a (rdf:type) is not subclassing, that's instantiation - It says "Corpus Subclassed from SKOS:Collection" (even though that's missing from the actual ontology), but skos:Collection has a specific use (ad-hoc collection of Concepts), whereas Corpus is a collection of documents (texts), so you can't do that - you have two different definitions of :Topic. One is tied to LCSH, which is wrong It seems to me you are in dire need of some ontology consulting, by someone who knows ontologies for describing: - machine learning and data science (there are at least 8 I know of) - datasets (DCAT2 and ADMS are the most important) - corpora and NLP (NIF and friends) — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Coleridge-2DInitiative_adrf-2Donto_issues_3&d=DwMCaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=omwcNBUqPba9pikmkXZXk2bFQ7zxZPhI5OH9dd8lFDA&m=iw0CoAMhezvqaI9d2O1SHWSmJPvEQ6aHD2oc064_QhA&s=cPEXYk00RK9PzE3CpBsJWmnY_UnXJCdNEGfmMDXgxaQ&e=>, or unsubscribe <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_notifications_unsubscribe-2Dauth_AD63AO7FQKDTRQEJBP5UKYTSJQOHDANCNFSM4SHBM4TQ&d=DwMCaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=omwcNBUqPba9pikmkXZXk2bFQ7zxZPhI5OH9dd8lFDA&m=iw0CoAMhezvqaI9d2O1SHWSmJPvEQ6aHD2oc064_QhA&s=njuxlXs74m6ZxKTO_ocj6MVwjHIVmaUpkfuwf52LVko&e=> .

[el2727]

Dear Vladimir,

Thank you very much for your very helpful comments, we reviewed, and noted them for the future development.

Thank you again.