Buff Thaumium Reinforced Jar recipe #3125
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can't test if this works in game because nightly busted but it builds
boubou19
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Aspects are are a joke now. From was it before |
As was mentioned, this requiring titanium made it useless. It provides 4x the capacity of a normal jar. For comparison, the essentia reservoir also stores 256 essentia, but of multiple types (sometimes useful sometimes not) and cannot be interacted with using phials. The reservoir requires infusion and void metal, a bit of a higher magic gate, which is fair given its extra usefulness in storing multiple types + rotation. However, this solidly places it MV-HV, which is before the old recipe. Within the thaum tiering alone it was useless. However, titanium also unlocks AE and leads to essentia cells, which store way more than any jar, so why would you bother crafting this jar when you can instead use essentia cells? There was no purpose to this being an EV gated recipe. Being LV gives it actual purpose. |
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Aspect wise, most of the previous ones werent making sense as it's too much for something that is barely relevant in the pack progression. I guess we can put back one or two like tutamen and vacous, or add them all back but reducing the amount of them. Right now, this has little to no place in the pack progression because you can have the Essentia Reservoir at HV, and Thaumic Energistics unlocks in EV. Given you don't start much toying with essentias until you have the infusion matrix which requires HV for the eye of ender. If you put harder materials in the recipe, players will just skip this and go to the reservoir. the recipe of the reservoir |
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I agree with Boubou, as it currently stands the Thaumium Jar is a fucking joke and there’s no reason to use it, like I’ve been saying this needs to be below the reservoir which means it needs to be pre infusion, otherwise, like boubou said, why would they ever use the thaumium jar when it’s the same size as the reservoir but can only store a single aspect |
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This needs to happen, frankly even this is a bit too expensive IMO for how useful this jar will be considered by people, it’s merely 4x bigger than a normal jar and can’t be picked up with essentia in it, so at that rate why not just use 4x more normal jars for a fraction of the price.
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Will edit it later |
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I not forgot about this and will edit it as soon I have time for it. |
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i check the orginal recipe from old Kekztech code and it was a infusion recipe public static void postInit() {
final AspectList aspects_jarthaumiumreinforced = new AspectList().add(Aspect.ARMOR, 3)
.add(Aspect.WATER, 3)
.add(Aspect.GREED, 3)
.add(Aspect.VOID, 3);
@SuppressWarnings("unused")
final ResearchItem jar_thaumiumreinforced = new ResearchItem(
"THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR",
"ALCHEMY",
aspects_jarthaumiumreinforced,
3,
-4,
2,
new ItemStack(Blocks.jarThaumiumReinforced, 1))
.setPages(
new ResearchPage("kekztech.research_page.THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR.0"),
new ResearchPage(Recipes.infusionRecipes.get("THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR")),
new ResearchPage(Recipes.infusionRecipes.get("THAUMIUMREINFORCEDVOIDJAR")),
new ResearchPage("kekztech.research_page.THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR.1"))
.setConcealed()
.setParents("JARLABEL")
.registerResearchItem();```
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and it used titanium as well // Thaumium Reinforced Jar
final ItemStack[] recipe_jarthaumiumreinforced = {
GameRegistry.makeItemStack("Thaumcraft:ItemResource", 15, 1, null),
GT_OreDictUnificator.get(OrePrefixes.plateDense, Materials.Thaumium, 1),
new ItemStack(net.minecraft.init.Blocks.glass_pane),
GT_OreDictUnificator.get(OrePrefixes.plateDense, Materials.Thaumium, 1),
new ItemStack(net.minecraft.init.Blocks.glass_pane),
GT_OreDictUnificator.get(OrePrefixes.frameGt, Materials.Titanium, 1),
GT_OreDictUnificator.get(OrePrefixes.plateDense, Materials.Thaumium, 1),
new ItemStack(net.minecraft.init.Blocks.glass_pane),
GT_OreDictUnificator.get(OrePrefixes.plateDense, Materials.Thaumium, 1),
new ItemStack(net.minecraft.init.Blocks.glass_pane), };
final AspectList aspects_jarthaumiumreinforced = new AspectList().add(Aspect.ARMOR, 64)
.add(Aspect.ORDER, 32)
.add(Aspect.WATER, 32)
.add(Aspect.GREED, 16)
.add(Aspect.VOID, 16)
.add(Aspect.AIR, 8);
infusionRecipes.put(
"THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR",
ThaumcraftApi.addInfusionCraftingRecipe(
"THAUMIUMREINFORCEDJAR",
new ItemStack(Blocks.jarThaumiumReinforced, 1, 0),
5,
aspects_jarthaumiumreinforced,
ItemApi.getBlock("blockJar", 0),
recipe_jarthaumiumreinforced));``` |
Look man, as long as this is MV, I genuinely don't care about the specifics, it just needs to be tiered before the reservoir and after the normal jar |
The Thaumium Reinforced Jar has quadruple capacity compared to a normal one, but cannot be picked up while full. This makes it useful for making stationary setups like smelteries more compact.
But its cost makes it extremely expensive to make even a few, and it's gated by titanium - which is also what gates essentia AE2 which obsoletes jars for majority of cases.
This PR changes the recipe to be way more reasonable and ungated, but still thaumium-hungry so they can't be spammed like the cheap normal jars (if you do enough smelting to need them, you can afford them). Also uses managlass for bit of crossmod magic.
Current recipe:
New recipe: