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| # 2024-12-04 Meeting Notes | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| - Status 2024-12 | ||
| - Planning on 2025-03: any noteworthy changes planned? | ||
| - Prioritization / information regarding [Dev Efforts](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/boards/1208) status | ||
| - General budget-related information | ||
| - High priority issues: [GTK 4](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/38), [JDT Java Text block](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/29), [ECF](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/37#note_2855907) | ||
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| ## Actions from Last Meeting | ||
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| - Agreed on schedule for 2025-03 and 2025-06 releases (see https://github.com/eclipse-simrel/.github/pull/32), added google calendar entries | ||
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| ## Minutes | ||
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| ### Status 2024-12 | ||
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| - Intensive testing by Ed, everything looks good | ||
| - Many new platforms in this release | ||
| - Probably some interest for Windows aarch64 (tested by Hannes and Nitin) | ||
| - RISC-V testing was not as extensive as intended | ||
| - Release is not added to Eclipse marketplace yet, so marketplace in that product is currently empty | ||
| - Thomas takes action | ||
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| ### Planning 2025-03 | ||
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| - SWT: minimum glibc will be 2.34 | ||
| - communication via cross-platform already done | ||
| - SWT: attempt to make Edge default | ||
| - communication via cross-platform pending | ||
| - flag for IE needs to be added | ||
| - Java 24: will be released right after Eclipse 2025-03 | ||
| - current flag to allow security manager will not be supported anymore (JVM fails to start) | ||
| - Ed takes action to remove flag in Platform | ||
| - discuss further impact in a future meeting | ||
| - EPP will remove Xmx flag (was at 2GB) | ||
| - initial memory taken will not be affected | ||
| - maximum memory will increase, more memory might be allocated until GC starts to clean | ||
| - SDK already removed the flag for 2023-12 | ||
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| ### Prioritization of Funded Dev Efforts | ||
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| - WG budget will probably be lower than expected | ||
| - Release engineering work can be secured with the budget, but funding of further efforts needs to be reduced | ||
| - Prioritization: community mentor work vs. other funded dev efforts | ||
| - community mentors are multipliers, as onboarding of new contributors/committers becomes easier | ||
| - unanimous approval for prioritizing community mentor work over other dev efforts | ||
| - High priority issues on [dev efforts board](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/boards/1208) | ||
| - [JDT Java Text block](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/29) | ||
| - intention of issue was to onboard new JDT committer | ||
| - unanimous approval of priority reduction | ||
| - [ECF](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/37#note_2855907) | ||
| - would allow to exchange existing HTTP client with JDK-integrated on | ||
| - nice to have, but currently not critical if it is not done | ||
| - [GTK 4](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/38) | ||
| - has high priority for many members/companies | ||
| - unclear whether we can cover all the issue with given budget | ||
| - companies depending on Linux/GTK need to jump in | ||
| - additional issue: reviewing | ||
| - work currently mostly done by Alexander, but has less time to do it | ||
| - other committers also need to review/merge, even if they are no highly experienced SWT/GTK developers --> better than not doing any progress | ||
| - proposal: more focus in testing that reviewing, can also be done by non-committers | ||
| - a "how to test" section should be provided in according PRs | ||
| - testing on Windows via WSL is not sufficient, but might be better than nothing | ||
| - proper labels for those PRs indicating that tests are wanted (and may also be done by rather unexperienced contributors) could be useful | ||
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| ## Next Meeting | ||
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| Next meeting will be on January 8th, 2025 (changed from January 1st according to default scheduling). |