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✨ 2024-02-27 #20

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21 changes: 0 additions & 21 deletions meetings/notes/2023/2023-10-24.md
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# TG3 - 2023-10-24

## lack of quorum -- adjourned without any business

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## Folks

| Name | GH Username | TLA | Affiliation |
| --------- | --------------- | --- | ------------ |
| Full Name | @githubUsername | FNE | organization |
| | | | |

## Agenda

> [!NOTE]
> See [backlog.md](../backlog.md) for outstanding action items and agenda topics.

| Topic | Presenter(s) |
| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ---------------- |
| review of previous agenda and action items | |
| review of TG3 discussion from plenary (consensus items and pending actions) | Chris de Almeida |

### review of previous agenda and action items
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| Name | GH Username | TLA | Affiliation |
| ---------------- | --------------- | --- | ------------ |
| Full Name | @githubUsername | FNE | organization |
| Chris de Almeida | @ctcpip | CDA | IBM |
| Mark Miller | @erights | MM | Agoric |
| Jordan Harband | @ljharb | JHD | HeroDevs |
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## Folks

| Name | GH Username | TLA | Affiliation |
| --------- | --------------- | --- | ------------ |
| Full Name | @githubUsername | FNE | organization |
| | | | |
| Name | GH Username | TLA | Affiliation |
| ---------------- | ----------- | --- | ----------- |
| Mark Miller | @erights | MM | Agoric |
| Richard Gibson | @gibson042 | RGN | Agoric |
| Chris de Almeida | @ctcpip | CDA | IBM |

## Agenda

> [!NOTE]
> See [backlog.md](../backlog.md) for outstanding action items and agenda topics.

| Topic | Presenter(s) |
| ------------------------------------------ | ------------ |
| review of previous agenda and action items | |
| | |
| Topic | Presenter(s) |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ---------------- |
| ? structs update ? | |
| review issues in security repo | Chris de Almeida |
| does TC39 need a formal security review for proposals? [related issue][related] | |

### review of previous agenda and action items
- structs meeting on March 4 -- meeting is on TC39 private calendar

### review issues in security repo

- discussed array index accessors and @@Species
- index accessors: 5% usage in 2017 is now over 30% in 2024, likely due to use in popular lib(s)
- <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2238>

### misc discussion

- discussed Promise.resolve re-entrancy hazard
- discussed harden and stabilize
- will be discussed at tomorrow (2-28) SES meeting
- should we advertise TG3 meetings in Reflector?
- sure, couldn't hurt
- APAC-friendly meetings are not well-attended, with zero APAC-located attendees for several months
- propose switching the APAC-friendly-time meeting to an EMEA-friendly-time meeting
- until the need arises again for an APAC-friendly-time meeting

[related]: https://github.com/tc39/security/issues/4
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# TG3 - 2024-03-13

## Folks

| Name | GH Username | TLA | Affiliation |
| --------- | --------------- | --- | ------------ |
| Full Name | @githubUsername | FNE | organization |
| | | | |

## Agenda

> [!NOTE]
> See [backlog.md](../backlog.md) for outstanding action items and agenda topics.

| Topic | Presenter(s) |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ---------------- |
| ? structs update ? | |
| review issues in security repo | Chris de Almeida |
| does TC39 need a formal security review for proposals? [related issue][related] | |
| | |

### review issues in security repo

- index accessors: 5% usage in 2017 is now over 30% in 2024, likely due to use in popular lib(s)
- <https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/2238>

[related]: https://github.com/tc39/security/issues/4
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- JHD: changing to accessers can break packages <https://github.com/ljharb/call-bind/issues/4>
- MAH: need a private place to discuss... private things
- feedback while discussing making the TG3 repo public
- MM: Promise.resolve should not cause a re-entrancy hazard -- MAH would be good to advise on this
- internal promise resolve operation (original/initial behavior of Promise.resolve) - simplify that to not check the constructor properry and thereby to not give user code a chance to run during the Promise.resolve operation
- RGN: lack of constraints around ordering for reporting own keys even on an Object.freeze() frozen object
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