Meeting notes for Planning Council 2024-12-04

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 ### Meeting notes
 
+ - [2024-12-04](Planning_Council/2024-12-04.md)
  - [2024-11-06](Planning_Council/2024-11-06.md)
  - [2024-10-02](Planning_Council/2024-10-02.md)
  - 2024-09-04

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+# 2024-12-04 Meeting Notes
+
+## Agenda
+
+- Status 2024-12
+- Planning on 2025-03: any noteworthy changes planned?
+- Prioritization / information regarding [Dev Efforts](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/boards/1208) status
+  - General budget-related information
+  - High priority issues: [GTK 4](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/38), [JDT Java Text block](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/29), [ECF](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/37#note_2855907)
+
+
+## Actions from Last Meeting
+
+- Agreed on schedule for 2025-03 and 2025-06 releases (see https://github.com/eclipse-simrel/.github/pull/32), added google calendar entries
+
+## Minutes
+
+### Status 2024-12
+
+- Intensive testing by Ed, everything looks good
+- Many new platforms in this release
+  - Probably some interest for Windows aarch64 (tested by Hannes and Nitin)
+  - RISC-V testing was not as extensive as intended
+- Release is not added to Eclipse marketplace yet, so marketplace in that product is currently empty
+  - Thomas takes action
+
+### Planning 2025-03
+
+- SWT: minimum glibc will be 2.34
+  - communication via cross-project already done
+- SWT: attempt to make Edge default
+  - communication via cross-project pending
+  - flag for IE needs to be added
+- Java 24: will be released right after Eclipse 2025-03
+  - current flag to allow security manager will not be supported anymore (JVM fails to start)
+  - Ed takes action to remove flag in Platform
+  - discuss further impact in a future meeting
+- EPP will remove Xmx flag (was at 2GB)
+  - initial memory taken will not be affected
+  - maximum memory will increase, more memory might be allocated until GC starts to clean
+  - SDK already removed the flag for 2023-12
+
+
+### Prioritization of Funded Dev Efforts
+
+- WG budget will probably be lower than expected
+- Release engineering work can be secured with the budget, but funding of further efforts needs to be reduced
+- Prioritization: community mentor work vs. other funded dev efforts
+  - community mentors are multipliers, as onboarding of new contributors/committers becomes easier
+  - unanimous approval for prioritizing community mentor work over other dev efforts
+- High priority issues on [dev efforts board](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/boards/1208) 
+  - [JDT Java Text block](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/29)
+    - intention of issue was to onboard new JDT committer 
+    - unanimous approval of priority reduction
+  - [ECF](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/37#note_2855907)
+    - would allow to exchange existing HTTP client with JDK-integrated on
+    - nice to have, but currently not critical if it is not done
+  - [GTK 4](https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipse-wg/ide-wg/ide-wg-dev-funded-efforts/ide-wg-dev-funded-program-planning-council-top-issues/-/issues/38)
+    - has high priority for many members/companies
+    - unclear whether we can cover all the issue with given budget
+    - companies depending on Linux/GTK need to jump in
+    - additional issue: reviewing
+      - work currently mostly done by Alexander, but has less time to do it
+      - other committers also need to review/merge, even if they are no highly experienced SWT/GTK developers --> better than not doing any progress
+      - proposal: more focus in testing that reviewing, can also be done by non-committers
+        - a "how to test" section should be provided in according PRs
+        - testing on Windows via WSL is not sufficient, but might be better than nothing
+        - proper labels for those PRs indicating that tests are wanted (and may also be done by rather unexperienced contributors) could be useful
+
+## Next Meeting
+
+Next meeting will be on January 8th, 2025 (changed from January 1st according to default scheduling).